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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Ok odd question but is it true that if your driving with a auto stick in a car it will get the same gas mileage as if you were driving with a manual?
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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automatics [autosticks] are more efficient now then before. but manual transmissions will still get better mpg since it weights less and more efficient given identical driving style
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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It depends on how you drive your car but I think it's about the same.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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yea definitely depends on how you drive the car. Ive heard that if u drive a manual conservatively youll def get better MPG than auto
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by josephchihweilu
yea definitely depends on how you drive the car. Ive heard that if u drive a manual conservatively youll def get better MPG than auto
...but then who the hell buys a manual to drive it conservatively? lol I have an automatic and I beat the **** out of it... a manual for me would be redlining every gear... all the time...
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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Yeah, automatics are getting more and more efficient nowadays, but manuals will have better MPG. But who drives manuals conservatively?
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Get a 5 speed, you will be disappointed with the AT. Just my .02.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Manuals have less drivetrain losses due to the clutch vs. the torque converter. Less drivetrain loss = better efficiency. New autos are getting better. However, people should buy what they're most comfortable with. I personally haven't found an automatic yet that hasn't p*ssed me off, so I soley buy manuals. Other people obviously feel differently than me, considering how many auto Zs are out there.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by imjdoggie
Get a 5 speed, you will be disappointed with the AT. Just my .02.
The auto is a 5 speed...
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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I have a manual and I don't drive it hard. But ONLY when necessary. Let the race begin!
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I hear manual auto trannies with flux capacitors get better acceleration with less fuel consumption....
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by imjdoggie
Get a 5 speed, you will be disappointed with the AT. Just my .02.
Your .02 is worth squat. The MT is a 6 speed & AT is 5 speed.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fccs
Ok odd question but is it true that if your driving with a auto stick in a car it will get the same gas mileage as if you were driving with a manual?
No. The auto will still get worse. This is due to gearing and drivetrain loss (more with the auto).
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Originally Posted by n8vz
automatics [autosticks] are more efficient now then before. but manual transmissions will still get better mpg since it weights less and more efficient given identical driving style
The enthusiast coupe with auto is 2 lbs lighter than the stick, the touring is 20 under and the grand touring is 13 less. Between the dual mass flywheel and the extra parts required for a stick (pedal, clutch actuation, linkage etc), it's a toss-up for weight and mileage.

My '06 Enthusiast coupe is the first car I ever bought with automatic. This auto is so good it deserves to be called a gearbox! I miss stick on the twisties, but I sure don't miss it in traffic every morning and evening. I'll keep manual in my toys but never again in my daily driver.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by daveZ insanity
I'll keep manual in my toys but never again in my daily driver.

+1 Good advice...

I luv having a 6mt in my roadster, but after driving my daily driver (6mt G35 sedan) for 3 years I was ready to trade it in for the FX35 (automatic)... Had enough of driving a manual in stop and go traffic when I went into San Diego or L.A.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Built2shredZ
+1 Good advice...

I luv having a 6mt in my roadster, but after driving my daily driver (6mt G35 sedan) for 3 years I was ready to trade it in for the FX35 (automatic)... Had enough of driving a manual in stop and go traffic when I went into San Diego or L.A.
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same here. my last sports car was a 6spd and i kept it for about a month before getting rid of it. didn't think the commute would be that bad at first but a 6spd commuting out in the dc metro area is like a daily workout. not good for a clutch to be butchered like that driving in stop and go traffic for hours at a time.

as far as others telling you MT is better for performance driving don't believe the hype. first an AT fd can be swapped for a 3.5 just as in the MT. and a stillen AT tyranny valve body upgrade will make your car shift like a bat out of he11. together i would think you would have an edge up on an MT in manual mode.

another plus is an ecu reflash. the advertised redline for my AAM reflash was around 7200 i believe. but i've had mine upward of 7500 or so. when you first experience it you'll just smile like a baby. as you tick past your old redline and feel the car keep pulling in gear you feel like creaming your pants...
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Originally Posted by vo7848
I hear manual auto trannies with flux capacitors get better acceleration with less fuel consumption....


Yes, but the integrated digital capacity is such that the functional monitored time-phase is totally incompatible with the synchronised reciprocal mobility.

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damnit double post lol...
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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here we go again with the auto vs. manual discussion
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 06:29 AM
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after 3 months im completely happy w/ my 5 at...actually ive heard a few times the autos are quicker in the 1/4 mile
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