pony_killer

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I got my 06 Enthusiast for $30,000 driveout...came with mud gaurds, wheel locks, floor mats, trunk mat, cargo net, backseat organizer, front chin spoiler, and i think that was it. it was listed at $31,600 + ttl so i think i got a pretty good deal.

dutchboy350Z

iTrader: (5)

to the OP .... keep your eyes peeled for cars @ carmax ... I got my roadie for 3 grand under KBB ... no negotiating at all (no haggle price)

6894kevin

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A used Z isn't out of the question and the only reason I asked about 06 in 2007 is because I have to pay for that last semester and the money is due in Jan. After Jan I will be home free, that is if I pass everything and keep my GPA up.

The warranty for the Z is how long and how many months??????

I was very close to getting a used 06 Enthusiast for 26,500.00 with 4k miles on it but I passed caused the color wasn’t what I wanted.

I have yet to see a car in person like the one I want so that’s why I thought it would be easier to find one new. DB Enthusiast Coup!

The dealer I talked with said he would just trade with another dealer and could get me what I wanted. Do you think this will hold true in 2007???? For a 2006 car?????

John@Victory

iTrader: (36)

the longer you wait the harder it will be to get the car you want. but pricing for whats left out there will be better... just depends on whats more important color/model or price. with color/model you want, the sooner the better. for price then hold off but chances are you will have to settle for something other than you want.

perfect example, i have someone now that wants a black or white 6spd enthusist and as of now there are only 12 total between the east coast and mid west

John@Victory

iTrader: (36)

after looking as to whats out there you might want to do it now. there is only 3 on the east coast.
below is the list of whats out there. the first one is daytona florida, the second one is in new york and the third is in deluth georgia.... slim pickins with daytona blue

Click on "AVR" to purchase a vehicle from AVR or click on the DEALER to trade for a vehicle.
Click on the STATUS for vehicle details.



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3 vehicle(s) found

Dealer Model Color/Trim Packages/Options MSRP/Invoice Status ETA/Invoice Date
3029 -DAYTONA NISSAN 386-274-6800
56166
2006 Z{ ENTHUSIAST 2DR 6-SPD B17-G
DAYTONA BLUE, CARBON/CHARCOAL AER AER
AKP AKP
CGO CGO
FLO FLO
TMA TMA
50S 50 STATE EMISSION
$30,835 / $28,406 DLR INVENTORY 04/28/06



3575 -VISION NISSAN 585-787-2000
56166
2006 Z{ ENTHUSIAST 2DR 6-SPD B17-G
DAYTONA BLUE, CARBON/CHARCOAL AKP AKP
CGO CGO
FLO FLO
SGD SGD
TMA TMA
50S 50 STATE EMISSION
$30,445 / $28,106 DLR INVENTORY 06/05/06



3611 -GWINNETT PLACE NISSAN 770-476-7771
56166
2006 Z{ ENTHUSIAST 2DR 6-SPD B17-G
DAYTONA BLUE, CARBON/CHARCOAL FLO FLO
SGD SGD
TMA TMA
50S 50 STATE EMISSION
$30,255 / $27,975 DLR INVENTORY 08/14/06


the higher price is msrp and the lower price to the right is invoice on it




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John@Victory

iTrader: (36)

on the entire east coast and midwest this is the break down of every 6spd enthusist out there

lemans sunset 5 available

redline 11 available

daytona blue 3

black 9

silver 14

interlagos fire 12

pike peake white 4

silverstone 14

so as you see there isnt alot of 6spd enthusists left out there...


hope this helps

John@Victory

iTrader: (36)

this is the most expensive car in the country

Order #: W615418

Current Configuration
56616
2006 Z{ GRAND TOURING 2DR AUTO

B17-G
DAYTONA BLUE, CARBON/CHARCOAL


Invoice MSRP
BASE $33,512 $36,650

AKP $78 $110
ALUM KICK PLATE

CGO $53 $80
CARGO CONV PKG

FLO $64 $90
FLOOR MATS

NAV $1,561 $1,800
NAVIGATION SYSTEM

SAB $538 $620
SIDE AIRBAGS

SRS $304 $350
SRS SATELLITE RAD

TMA $54 $70
TRUNK MAT (COUPE)

50S $0 $0
50 STATE EMISSION

Freight Charge $605 $605


Total $36,769 $40,375


Vehicle Information
Order #: W615418 VIN: JN1AZ34E16M351392
Ordered On: 10/06/2005 Production Month: 11/2005
Rail Ship Date: Shipping VPC:
Rail Receive Date: Status: DLR
Wholesale Date: 12/19/2005
ETA: 12/29/05
RDR Date:
Dealer: 44-2718
ABC NISSAN
WILLIAM BRIXEY Dealer Details: 602-264-2332
1300 E CAMELBACK RD
PHOENIX AZ 85014


now if you notice the pricing

Total invoice$36,769 msrp $40,375

you have a 3606 differance in invoice and msrp

hold back on this car is 1029 dollars. so you have a total of 4635 between what the dealer owns the car for and msrp.

now at the begining of 06 there was a 1000 dollar rebate on the 05 z cars, which gives you a total of 5635 the car could be discounted, and thats on the most expensive car in the country.

thats why i say whom ever says they got 7k-9k or more off the sticker of the car is full of ****.

but some people will believe me to be a lair. im putting it out there the way it is. i dont need to lie to anyone. just trying to help out those that believe there is an honest dealer out there that will give it to you straight.

TMK988

I purchased my '04 (1/2) during Christmas week, 12/29 or last year. So, '06 us moments away and Nissan found an '04 Touring laying around. The list on the car was, I want to say close to $34. Due to the age of the car and the time of the year (not just the end of the month but the end of the year) they were desperate to get rid of the car. I also am fairly good at purchasing cars (have bought close to 15 so far... I'm 52!), and was far from desperate myself to buy the car. Anyway, after some aggressive discussions, they gave it to me for $26,600, which at the time was a staggeringly good deal. My timing was about as good as it gets, both the time of the year and this very old car sitting in the showroom (it has a big bow on it!). The short answer to your question is, yes, the older the unit is, the better the deal you will get. If you can wait until late December, you will probably save a few thousand dollars over what you can save right now.
Good luck, the 350 is really a wonderful and entertaining car.

John@Victory

iTrader: (36)

lol... ok.... a dealer is not going to lose 3k dollars just to move a car. i know better, i have been doing this a long time... the lights dont stay on and the bills dont get paid selling cars for less than you own them. they will only give what nissan is willing to give. if nissan puts dealer cash on a car or ads rebate to it they will give you all of that but they will not lose money selling a car...

h8rain

Brand new, only 54 miles

Billinohio

I assume dealers have to pay interest on the cars they have? I wouldnt want one sitting around any longer than necessary with a new model coming out.

John@Victory

iTrader: (36)

i knew if i went far enough back i would be able to find your bs

1. you have posted you paid 34k for the car then posted 33k for the car and now 32k for the car

2. you leased the car (ill revisit this one at a later time)

3. you rolled over negitive equity into your purchase

so to be truthfull you dont know what the hell you paid for the car. but when i get in at noon i will know when i go into lease link and run the numbers . but you yourself stated that you are paying 489 a month with 1k as down payment. and that is on a 60 month 12k lease..(i could get that lease number on 36 months with ZERO money out of pocket and 15k a year mileage)..THATS A WHOLE LOT MORE AND 32K.... with your down payment annd residual and your payments you are paying 43,340 for the car...now you rolled over some negitive equity into he car... but you dont know how much.... you have no earthly idea what they put into your trade. you know what they SHOWED you for the car... hell, you could have had equity in the miata trade. you have no way of knowing what the dealer paid for your trade....

NEXT???????

6894kevin

iTrader: (1)

John:
Thanks for the great info man!
I can't buy right now due to me purchising my first home and school and all, but when the time comes do you think i could get you to help me find a car on the east side since you have the right connections??
Thanks Again Man

Cheers

Kevin

John@Victory

iTrader: (36)

not a problem man...just let me know when your ready...

TMK988

Hey JohnVictory,
You certainly seem to have an insiders perspective on this industry. My question to you is (would you take a moment and review my reply on this thread, from TMK988?). When I met with the finance guy (I put 15k down on the car and financed the rest), he seemed a little agitated. Eventually, he turned his computer screen towards me and asked me to look at a number, of course the screen was a spread sheet with much info on it. Well, he pointed to a number that was in the area of $4000. He then pointed to some other numbers, one was the MSRP, another the 'hold back' number, which was the first time I had ever heard of that. He told me that when the sales team came into him with the information about my deal, he was angry because it was, I suppose, not a good deal for the dealership. He told me that that $4000 or so number was what the dealer lost in this deal! I know that they couldn't have lost that much money, despite me paying $26,600 for a $34k car. I guess possible if this was just a straight deal, but I have to assume that either he was just trying to make me feel good (which I definately would have appreciated, but I didn't get the impressions that he was in the mood to be kind, it was late) or the dealer was getting some special deal because this was, really, a 2 year old car (it was new, it had 72 miles on it and the paperwork refered to it as a new car and this is a reputable dealer) as I purchased it three days before 2006. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks,
Tom

John@Victory

iTrader: (36)

if he was using the reynolds system and not adp then yes i can explain as im fimilure with reynolds.

was the 4000 dollar number in the botom right hand side of the screen? and was it 4000 or -4000?

i missed the fact that you stated your car was an 04 and i was thinking 05.

with your number its pretty easy to figure out. there was a 1000 dollar rebate on the car (could have been a little higher been a while since i worked 04 numbers ) and there was 2000 dollar dealer cash on the car because of its age that nissan put on it to help the dealer sell.. so that is 3000 dollars of the defeciency. the reynolds system doesnt show hold back as profit (for a reason, if the car cam from another dealer there is no hold back) it shows it as a loss if the dealership lets a customer get into the holdback. so if the hold back was 1000 dollars and you got all of it then it would show a -4000 dollar loss on the car, but the dealership actually broke dead even on it.

also if the dealership is holding rate. say you qualify for 6.24% but the dealership is putting you out at 7.34% then it does allow the dealership to discount the car into the hold back but not give up everything. it will then show it being a losing deal but the money is being made back up in rate. same thing applies with extended waranty and maintainance agreements or gap ins. most dealers dont like to do that though as you are giving up tangeble gross up for intangeble gross (if someone cancells the warranty, maintainance, gap, or refinances then the dealership never sees the profit and actually lost money.

hope this clarifies things a little

Ruining

This is my favorite thread. Better than Palahniuk.

bailey bill

But a 2 year old car is NOT a new car.

I'm not telling you it might not be good deal, but its still a 2 year old car.

bill

TMK988

Thanks so much John for taking the time to explain all that! It was an '04 (actually it is the '04 1/2!). I got a 6% rate so maybe the dealer made some money on that but I didn't purchase any of the additional add on's like the extended warranty, etc. The salesman, who left the dealership shortly after he sold me the car, told me he was not paid a commission... and then tried, in a reasonably subtle way, to hit me up for a tip!!!! Anyway, I actually felt kind of badly that the dealer lost money on my deal, now it appears that they likely at lease broke even and hopefully in some accounting twist earned something down the road on the sale. It does seem that I probably got a pretty reasonable deal myself.
Thanks again,
Tom

Z33Concept

They eventually have to buy them