actually i always seen people want 350Z to compete with the vettes, but i've never seen people want to make them compare to a viper, or use the vettes to compare with the viper. don't yell at me that i'm stupid because i'm a newbie on american car.(even though i'm a car nut) i think the vettes' price is close to the viper, isn't it? and i always see vettes out number the viper in road but why? what's the difference between 2??

 

No, the Corvette's price is not anything near that of the Viper. The Viper is over $70k and the Vette around $40. Not too hard to check on this before making a post based on a completely false premise.

http://carpoint.msn.com/vip/newoverv...model=Corvette

http://carpoint.msn.com/vip/newoverv...ge&model=Viper

 

Dodge Vipers list over $60k and are few in far between.

Chevy Corvette starts around $38k for a C5, and $48k for the Z06.

The Vipers are slightly faster then the Vettes (around 12.6-.8sec 1/4 mile for the Viper versus around 12.8-.9 for the Z06)[side note, these are from people I know running stock cars, I don't know nor do I care what others have run nor what magazines say]. The Z06 has better stopping and better handling (at least drivibility) then the Vipers. Vipers pretty much own stock C5 Vettes.

The 350Z is not in either of their legues. A 350Z should be close to C5 Vette but in the end it will still turn up loosing in my best guess. But for the price difference of a base 350Z versus a base C5 Vette ($27k vs. 38k) I'll take the Z any day. Even at a $30k price tag for an Enthusiast I'll take the Z, otherwise I'd be hard pressed to take the Z over the Vette (especially at the $35k price tag for the Track model although the Performance model I might take).

 

First, let me say that I think it's VERY cool that you're 16 years old and into cars. It'll pay off later in life when you can start to cash in on a few of those dreams!

Anyhow, the Viper (as noted) is quite a bit more expensive than the Corvette. With less of a history to draw upon, the Corvette also has the advantage of a captive audience who salivate at the thought of buying a new Vette, but would never look at a Viper. This, combined with the lower cost, may help explain why you see more Corvettes on the road.

Given a choice, I'd still stick with my beloved Z. Imagine what a monster you could create if you put $20,000 of upgrades into a $30,000 car? You'd be eating Z06's for breakfast!

 

you are comparing 3cars that are in different groups. The 350 Z can't compete with a corvette and a corvette can't compete with a vipor. And the reason you see so many vettes than vipors is because the vipor cost twice as much.

 

I like the History of the Z. My family owned a 83 280zx 2+2 when i was growing up. Loved the car. To celebrate that love, I have gone out and bought a new Z twenty years later.

I spent a lot of money on my new Z and did not even consider the Corvette an option. I could see maybe buying a classic Corvette (seeing how I love old muscle cars) but not a new one even if it is faster for the same money.

 

I don't know this. What is the difference between a C5 Vette and a Z06 Vette? Well, I guess HP is one difference. I do know the Z06 is 405 HP.

 

Check it out here

Basically, 350hp v. 405hp, and the Z06 has a tighter suspension. Oh, and the Z06 costs $50,000 v. the coupe's $41,600.

 

i think if a Z06 went head to head with a viper, i will be willing to bet the ZO6 will stay right on the vipers tale, maybe not win, but it will be right there.

of course, the type of Viper would be taken into consideration.
if it is a GTS, then say good bye to the Z06. But, if it is racing againt a RT/10, then it shouldnt be too bad.

it would be kind like like comparing a Z to a M-coupe.


RT/10:
0-60 in 4.0
1/4 mile in 12.2

ZO6:
0-60 in 4.1
1/4 mile in 12.5

would be a good race imo.

 

actually i didn't expect i will have some reply like these, but anyways, i stated myself that i'm a completely idiot on american cars, so i really don't know the differences. And in Canada, it's.......really really hard to find a viper on the road or even the dealer, they don't talk about the viper much, so i think i get not much of source on viper. Actually i don't know anything about vettes before, i get to know it after i join this forum and read the past post from the members. And Yes, i should do a search before, but i'm too lazy cuz i have no interest in viper so i assume it's a waste of time on reading those articles.(or even tryting to search the price)

as u guys said, viper's price is twice as much as a vettes, then what's the reason of buyin a viper man? that's overprice on such a car with such a interior, if i have the money i would of buy a 911 or even a 4S or a targa.

 

You can't compare the Z to the Vette or the Viper.

But you can and should definately compare the Z06 to the Viper, and yes, they do compete with each other. The Z06 and the Viper are in different pricing groups but are definately right on the spot in terms of track performance.

 

Once you get above $50,000 more and more of the cars price tag has to do with image. Up to about $50k, you can see incremental improvements in performance or in amenities. Beyond that point the differences are subtle and hard to put a $ value on. Of course, some people would simply say that's true at $30k, and some people would say that with their "superior descriminating tastes" they can see distinct improvements continue right up to $100k or more.

Just remember, performance is only part of the equation. Personal taste, image/prestige, lifetime dreams etc are major players too.

 

I'd like to expand on #15Blade's point- You pointed out yourself, John0213, that you don't see many Vipers on the road. That's true here in the US, as well. What you're paying the extra money for over the Vette Z06 is a little more performance and a lot more exclusivity. Here, where you do see a Viper, you see a lot of people around it, because it truly is an exotic, in its own way. Corvettes and Porsches, while still pretty impressive, just don't generate crowds. For some people, getting recognition and attention for their belongings is important.

There's also the fact that the Viper will eat most porsches for lunch. Go read this comparison, Vette vs. Viper GTS vs. 911 Turbo S. Note: the 911 Turbo S is the second-fastest roadgoing Porsche available. Despite being twice as expensive as the Viper, the 911T-S was only a smidge quicker to 60 and was slower in the quarter and in the 40-70mph. PLUS it has a worse skidpad, and was only a teensy smidge faster in the slolam. And it has a lower service rating. The only place where the Porsche dominated the Viper was in braking. So that choice isn't so cut and dried, after all. Of course, a true "Car Nut" knows this stuff.

 

in ur area maybe porsche "targa" wouldn't pull that much of head, but it does in my area, and i believe it does in some other area too. In my opinion i wouldn't go such a limited in such a expensive car (to test which one eats which), and i do think u'r spending the same money to whether buy a dodge or a porsche( pls don't get angry on this it's just my opinion)

pls keep the topic cool cuz i think i smell a sense of flame here

 

Not angry, man, but do read the article I linked to. The Porsche that performs at close to the same level as the Viper costs twice as much as the Viper.

Don't get me wrong, I love Porsches. But there's always the old adage- "I could give you a Porsche, and you still couldn't afford it." If it were my money I was spending, I'd have to take the Viper. Just IMO, of course.