6MT grinds when cold in 1-2 upshift
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This is normal. Every manual car I have ever had does this when cold. It's not a design flaw. Only thing you can do is let the car warm up some as mentioned. The other thing that helps is synthetic transmission fluid. That helps the most actually.
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The synthetic trans fluid helped a little this morning. It wasn't very cold and I let it idle for only a few minutes. There was a small amount of "grind" in the 1-2 upshift. Will provide additional info in a few days when the freeze hits.
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i dont know if my trans is just being a retarded 03 trans or if it's got something wrong with it. my trans is smoothest when it's cold and then when it gets warmed up some it has more of a grind tendency. when i shift it never "grinds" it's just not smooth, it has a lot of notch to it. it doesnt seem normal but then again i've heard that the 03 trans was just really notchy and gay. any thoughts?
my 03 original trannie goes through all the gears like a hot knife through butter regardless of outside temperature.....original 03 nissan transmission oil.
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Originally Posted by Barmats
The synthetic trans fluid helped a little this morning. It wasn't very cold and I let it idle for only a few minutes. There was a small amount of "grind" in the 1-2 upshift. Will provide additional info in a few days when the freeze hits.
You have to allow the new oil to work its way in, when i did a fluid flush i didnt feel any difference until later in the day when i put some miles on it.
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Originally Posted by Ztalker
my 03 original trannie goes through all the gears like a hot knife through butter regardless of outside temperature.....
Since the synth trans fluid change I've driven about 125 miles with 50% city driving. Perhaps it needs a little more time and shifting to thoroughly lube the mechanism.
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Originally Posted by Barmats
Since the synth trans fluid change I've driven about 125 miles with 50% city driving. Perhaps it needs a little more time and shifting to thoroughly lube the mechanism.
Haha no, it should of been fine after 50 miles of driving. What kind of oil did you use?
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I'm not sure but I know the dealership uses Mobile 1 synth engine oil and would imagine they used Mobile 1 fluid for the transmission as well. It does feel a little smoother, but it could be my imagination because I just paid extra for it.
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Originally Posted by Barmats
I'm not sure but I know the dealership uses Mobile 1 synth engine oil and would imagine they used Mobile 1 fluid for the transmission as well. It does feel a little smoother, but it could be my imagination because I just paid extra for it.
Mobil1 Engine oil is pretty good but not the best, the trans oil is whatever, i used it a few years ago with no improvement on my 300ZX. My recommendation is Redline MT90 for trans and Motul for engine oil. Kind of odd your dealer offers Mobil1 as not many do, we do offer Motul oil changes though.
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Originally Posted by Eddie@Performance
Mobil1 Engine oil is pretty good but not the best, the trans oil is whatever, i used it a few years ago with no improvement on my 300ZX. My recommendation is Redline MT90 for trans and Motul for engine oil. Kind of odd your dealer offers Mobil1 as not many do, we do offer Motul oil changes though.
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Originally Posted by 98sr20ve
Redline MT90 is good (just be sure it the right GL rating) I have used Motul Trany fluid. I loved it on my daily driver but did not like it at the track. It overheated my old track car. That transmission was very tough on oil. Most people used Redline heavy shockproof so to be fair the Motul did very well all things considered. Motul worked really well in the cold.
Quick question, judging from your name do you have a G20 with a VVL engine?
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i was told by a performance shop that they recomend not using synth trans fluid because it is a better lubricant and the synchros rely on a friction principal. using non synth allows the synchros to create the proper friction better
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Originally Posted by Eddie@Performance
Quick question, judging from your name do you have a G20 with a VVL engine?
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Mine was perfectly fine before the 30K maintenance, they flushed the trany and the dif and 1 day after that the grinding issue start.
I lift the car and open the filling hole, 1/2 quart of fluid leak out from the trany.
they was sparkles inside the oil and a strong smell of rotten egg.
i think they screwed up and put the wrong fluid inside the trany, naming GL5 instead of GL4.
i just change the oil but i'm scared my syncros are screwed.
I lift the car and open the filling hole, 1/2 quart of fluid leak out from the trany.
they was sparkles inside the oil and a strong smell of rotten egg.
i think they screwed up and put the wrong fluid inside the trany, naming GL5 instead of GL4.
i just change the oil but i'm scared my syncros are screwed.
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Use to have this same issue with my RSX, the techs did a trans fluid flush and replaced with GM Syncromesh (cant remember exact name but I think thats it). Never had an issue since 7500 miles later .
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Well, I have to report that after driving with synthetic trans fluid for the past few months in very cold temps, it didn't appear to make any difference whatsoever. Still substantial grinding in the 1-2 upshift when cold, and disappeared after 5-10 minutes of driving. And If I don't let it warm up when it's really cold out for at least a few minutes, it simply WILL NOT shift into 2nd at all.
Fortunately, it's been quite a bit warmer lately and this is no longer an issue. But it will return with the cold temps later on.
Fortunately, it's been quite a bit warmer lately and this is no longer an issue. But it will return with the cold temps later on.
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