ok, is your name jose and do you drive a white Z?

 

I highly doubt you can shift faster than the 5AT. It's very similar to the Porsche tranny which can shift in less than 200ms. Yes, that is milliseconds. A Ferrari takes 150ms in sport auto mode to shift. Pro drag cars use ATs because they shift faster than any human in a MT can. A professional NASCAR driver can do a single shift in approximately 0.7 to 0.8 seconds and they are some of the best manual shift drivers around. If you can shift faster than the Z 5AT, I say we get you on the race circuit and make some serious money. If your shifts are taking a second or longer you either have a faulty transmission or not shifting correctly.

A sequential transmission has nothing to do with being an AT or MT. Any transmission that shifts in a 1...2...3... X ...3...2...1 pattern is a sequential transmission because you do each shift in "SEQUENCE". A non-sequential transmission is a transmission that has an open shift pattern, like an H pattern shifter.

See my post above, all multi-gear transmissions have at least one clutch. It doesn't matter if it's an AT or MT.

Yes, the SMG, DSG and similar type trannies uses a friction plate as opposed to a torque converter to transfer power. But, they are not manual transmissions. Those trannies including the Tiptronic types are automatics with manual overrides at best. In those transmissions you only get to tell the tranny when you want to shift by using a paddle, lever, button or whatever input they decided to use. Once you activate the shift command the computer takes over and controls everything from the timing to the disengagement and engagement of the gear and clutch. You have no other control other than when you want to shift. The only transmission that can be called a manual transmission is a standard tranny.

 

It's the other way around, the AT will have less chance of driver error.

 

keosh you son of a b**ch!

 

One of the lamest posts ever.. where is BEEESSSSPPEEE when you need to compare lameness? Did he jump off a bridge or something?

 

What's soo lame about it? Dude wasn't comfortable with stick when he bought his car and now he is semi-regretting it. Big deal

 

Terrible thread

 

I'm saying it's not 100% of the time because of driver error. 5% of the time a good driver (not just anybody) will mess up off the line or miss a shift or spin a little too much or whatever. Doesn't really matter because this dumbass thread needs to get closed anyway!

 

yes it is

 

I put the blame on deltafarce!

 

I blame you david. It's all your fault!

 

actually, it is dave's fault

 

in before the lock. the internet is an awesome place to solicit opinions btw.

 

 

Lets try this:
https://my350z.com/forum/polls/248776-at-vs-mt.html

 

5AT here. Flame me all you want I don't care. When it comes to ****ty stop and go Seattle traffic I just want to sit back, listen to Howard Stern and not worry about anything else while I'm in the car.

 

ya same here LA trafic is a biznatch and well i realy dont feel like changing gears every 5 sec but dont get me wrong befor i get my TT in my car im going Stick. so stop flaming on me by the way is this the longest automatic vs manual thread cuz i havent seen one longer

 

ok? the fastest car is in an auto... ur point? the more drag racing oriented the car.. the less reliable it is on the street. what about rally race? sure the top auto cars can go from 0-120 the fastest... let's say

but... on the street and on a roll.... trying an auto would do u no good. here's why.

let's say we're going 80mph... and (3 horn = let's roll)... since i know we're gonna go on 3rd horn... i lower my gear to 3rd gear in the torque band at around 6rpm (starting at 80mph)... on 3rd horn... all i gotta do is slam on the gas. where as if u drive an auto.... when u slam on the gas... it takes like a full second or so before it can go from 6th down to 3rd gear. ASK ANY Drag racer... a full second of response at the start of a race = very very bad

there's a reason why most street sport car are manual. because we can manually adjust the car to our own taste accordingly to the condition. the drift king tsuchiya always drives a stick and not an auto why?

all touge racers drive a stick because they can keep their car at the torque band regardless of the situation: uphill, downhill, tight corners, wide corners, u-turns,... an auto will **** u up cause every second counts... if u slam on the peddle half way... it shifts u into a certain gear... then when u slam ALL the way down, it gets u down to ANOTHER gear.

another this is... let's say we're speeding up to hit a corner... u know u gonna slow down so u let go off the accelerator... an auto will go to the next gear... u hit the brake upon cornering... accelerate a little cause u losing speed... brake a little more to adjust.... and slam on the gas at the corner exit.... ur auto will shift like crazy.... i bet u... u'll lose like 2-4secs of response.

where as with a stick... i can just slow down... heal-toe to an appropriate gear and do the whole cornering within 1 gear.... and at the corner exit... i just slam on the gas? ^_-

u brought up a worthless fact... cause Z is a road sport car... not a track car.... they use these crazy 7 seconds car with parachutes in the rear fo the brakes. that does not mean an auto is better than a Z when

1. it isnt stock auto
2. it is for the track 1/4 drag time (no professional draggers choses a Z for 1/4 anyways)

auto z is not BETTER than a stick... and here's MY reason why stick > auto

1.pre-adjust my car to be ready for a roll.
2.keeps me active and not bored
3.i can drift better.
4.i can rev up my engine (sure u can put N and rev... but that's not safe while u are on a roll :P )
5.im a lefty... so my left foot needs to be doing something.
6.i can watch my time and improve.. instead of slamming on the gas for 1/4... well unless u are a pro drag racer... what fun is it to slam on the gas at a 1/4?
7. and finally....... i can shift to the beat of the music

CASE CLOSED... u people who use "the top 1/4 mile Z is an auto"... U GOT OWNED!!!! cause ur fact is pointless... just admit ur fukn lazy and want to relax on a cruise

 

In auto Z's you can manual shift and choose your gears.


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