I hate water
#21
Originally Posted by HighwaySpeed
Was VDC/TCS turned on?
How many miles are on the tires?
What year and model is it?
Color:
None
Z/G Owner:
No
Trim Level:
35th AE
How many miles are on the tires?
What year and model is it?
Color:
None
Z/G Owner:
No
Trim Level:
35th AE
miles were the same as the car. little over 30k and it's on 05' and i'm sure the tcs was on because i don't remember touching it. ever.
#22
Originally Posted by itburns
both hands on the wheel, and make sure your tires are not bald.
#24
Originally Posted by Spike100
I think we need a pole... asking about hydroplaning and the Z or the tires or a combination. Lots of postings lately where people crashed. --Spike
Seriously, can we have a new thread explaining Z drivers how to drive the Z cautiously when there is water on the road? And what tires are best suited for such circumstances?
I know it all comes down to speed and sensibility - but off late I've been reading posts where ppl say they experienced hydroplaning even on low speeds. So was wondering if the experienced Z drivers had anything to say about this - if at all.
((Wanted to start a post, but was afraid of being flagged down with comments like - 'use the search', 'use ur common sense' etc!!))
#25
Never hydroplaned in the Z, only owned it for six months though. (but i live in seattle and its my DD)
I wonder if the new wheel/tire package on the 06's are better in the rain? Honestly the Z aint bad in the wet.
*knocks on wood*
I wonder if the new wheel/tire package on the 06's are better in the rain? Honestly the Z aint bad in the wet.
*knocks on wood*
#27
Originally Posted by dspiel
ive got the stock tires on my 06...maybe I need to switch any suggestions on a good all weather tire?
#28
The make/model of a tire does not tell the whole story. Need to know how much tread depth there is, suspension mods, last time an alignment was done. What was the driver's reaction when they started to hydroplane? Did they let up on the gas? Did they try to brake?
A bad alignment can drastically exacerbate hydroplaning. In my 97 M3, Even thought he car might track straight, if the alignment was off, I had to drive like 45 MPH in rainy weather. Reason is that all 4 tires don't hydroplane at the same time. It could be just one or two or three tires. The difference in the direction one wheel might travel from the rest will manifest itself when one tire hydroplanes and the others maintain traction. The car changes direction slightly. When the tire stops hydroplaning and regains traction, the rear direction changes again back to "normal". If this happens in rapid succession, It can literally throw the front or back end to one side or the other. If the car is properly aligned, and one or more tires hydroplanes, it'll continue to track straight. Note that alignment might be "right", but in a lowered car with a lot of negative camber in the rear, the two rear tires want to steer into eachother just because they are tilted in. If one of the rear tires looses traction due to hydroplaning, the back-end will drift towards the tire that lost traction. Once the hydroplaning tire regains traction, the car will snap back to its original trajectory.
So... Make sure you have good tread depth and that the car is properly aligned. If you are lowered and have excessive negative camber, drive extra slowly.
My 3 cents...
A bad alignment can drastically exacerbate hydroplaning. In my 97 M3, Even thought he car might track straight, if the alignment was off, I had to drive like 45 MPH in rainy weather. Reason is that all 4 tires don't hydroplane at the same time. It could be just one or two or three tires. The difference in the direction one wheel might travel from the rest will manifest itself when one tire hydroplanes and the others maintain traction. The car changes direction slightly. When the tire stops hydroplaning and regains traction, the rear direction changes again back to "normal". If this happens in rapid succession, It can literally throw the front or back end to one side or the other. If the car is properly aligned, and one or more tires hydroplanes, it'll continue to track straight. Note that alignment might be "right", but in a lowered car with a lot of negative camber in the rear, the two rear tires want to steer into eachother just because they are tilted in. If one of the rear tires looses traction due to hydroplaning, the back-end will drift towards the tire that lost traction. Once the hydroplaning tire regains traction, the car will snap back to its original trajectory.
So... Make sure you have good tread depth and that the car is properly aligned. If you are lowered and have excessive negative camber, drive extra slowly.
My 3 cents...
#31
The stock bridgestones aren't bad in the wet...bridgestones in nature are really good in water bc of Uni-T technology that is incorporated into the treat compound. Even my blizzak LM-22 are pretty good in wet. If your rear tires were bald though, which man Z cars are, there's a good chance that caused your hydroplaning. Maybe I feel like I drive better in the wet bc we do wet testing on our track in our test cars here along with dry.
#32
I had the Bridgestone Protenza RE-01 R tires on my last Z. They were the best tires I've ever owned. Extremely predictable and beefy. It took over a week for them to come in. I might have payed too much though - $1,730 for four at Tires Plus. Included mounting balancing etc...
Last edited by gothchick; 02-27-2007 at 01:28 PM.
#34
Originally Posted by Spoon_sports808
whoaaaa i didn't touch my profile in a loooong time. profile snooper just kidding
miles were the same as the car. little over 30k and it's on 05' and i'm sure the tcs was on because i don't remember touching it. ever.
miles were the same as the car. little over 30k and it's on 05' and i'm sure the tcs was on because i don't remember touching it. ever.
#35
Originally Posted by moflow
Never hydroplaned in the Z, only owned it for six months though. (but i live in seattle and its my DD)
I wonder if the new wheel/tire package on the 06's are better in the rain? Honestly the Z aint bad in the wet.
*knocks on wood*
I wonder if the new wheel/tire package on the 06's are better in the rain? Honestly the Z aint bad in the wet.
*knocks on wood*
06 tires aren't any better. They are the same crap as the previous years. End of story. If you driver supercareful, then you should be fine with the stock ones, but like I said, sometimes you never know. I thought I was driving supercareful, but apparently not careful enough.
#36
Originally Posted by ZsDaBest
+1000
Seriously, can we have a new thread explaining Z drivers how to drive the Z cautiously when there is water on the road? And what tires are best suited for such circumstances?
I know it all comes down to speed and sensibility - but off late I've been reading posts where ppl say they experienced hydroplaning even on low speeds. So was wondering if the experienced Z drivers had anything to say about this - if at all.
((Wanted to start a post, but was afraid of being flagged down with comments like - 'use the search', 'use ur common sense' etc!!))
Seriously, can we have a new thread explaining Z drivers how to drive the Z cautiously when there is water on the road? And what tires are best suited for such circumstances?
I know it all comes down to speed and sensibility - but off late I've been reading posts where ppl say they experienced hydroplaning even on low speeds. So was wondering if the experienced Z drivers had anything to say about this - if at all.
((Wanted to start a post, but was afraid of being flagged down with comments like - 'use the search', 'use ur common sense' etc!!))
I drove a Summit Point, WV with OEM tires in the rain. The straightaway is good for 100mph plus. No problem.
Standing water can be frightening. Keep the front tires straight, and the car will go straight. Change lanes in standing water and you had better be at the top of your game.
A great place to practice is the skid pad.
What performance tires are safe at high speeds in the rain? Check Consumer Reports.
#37
Originally Posted by moflow
Never hydroplaned in the Z, only owned it for six months though. (but i live in seattle and its my DD)
I wonder if the new wheel/tire package on the 06's are better in the rain? Honestly the Z aint bad in the wet.
*knocks on wood*
I wonder if the new wheel/tire package on the 06's are better in the rain? Honestly the Z aint bad in the wet.
*knocks on wood*
rain in socal.. people lose their minds.
#38
Originally Posted by dspiel
ive got the stock tires on my 06...maybe I need to switch any suggestions on a good all weather tire?