dont drive a Z in the snow without snow tires....

 

Don't drive in snow without studded snow tires and some extra weight? If you can't afford that, or to buy a 4wd or fwd winter beater, well, you shouldn't have bought the Z.

 

"chitty" reminds me of "chitty airlines" from south park lol

 

True - Most of the time...

This still gets a +1.

 

I hate when people complain about something that is out of their hands, like insurance rates, there are more Z's on the road, because the model has been made since 2003. Hence, there are more new Z's and used Z's out there, and the cheaper the price, the younger the driver that can afford it....which leads to more accidents.

 

out of our hands? how so? just dont drive like an ***... if u want spirited driving.. theres always the track,e.i:drag, autox,drift... just do it on a closed course. and be RESPOSIBLE. Driving is a privilage not a right.

 

doesnt matter how many z's are on the road....just be resposible.. and there WILL be less accident. being resposible is all i ask. if some one in z crashes into u will he/she was driving like an ***,would u be so tolerable? dont think so.

 

+1 well said, learn to drive your car before pushing it's limits. and my god don't drive in the snow unless you really really have to!!

 

I take a different approach. I say thank you for improving the resale value of my car by eliminating the population of Z's available.

 

your resale goes up... so does your insurance 8) so preaty much even 8)

 

It seems you slammed on the brakes, had the steering at an extreme angle from panic. Then you shifted everything you were doing by applying gas to kick out the tail and changed the steering angle. Pretty much you did everything wrong. And you're asking what you could have done better?

Don't slam on the brakes, keep a steady bit of gas applied. Don't hit the gas to "overcome the oversteer". Don't have the steering at an extreme angle. If you start losing control, calm down... just be steady, point where you want to go, and have a bit of gas applied. Things will work out.

So... yes. This accident was 100 percent your fault.

 

Yours might, mine doesn't and at just about 100$/month I'm not bothered by any increase at all.

 

i don't know why people keep complaining bout insurance costs. I'm 23 and paying $75/month for full coverage with State Farm. Maybe that is because I been driving for 7 years w/o a single ticket or accident on my record so, if you have a clean record your rates will be lower.

 

+1

 

Knock on wood my friend!

 

and you can say this because you were there? the steering wasnt at an extreme angle to start with, i did have steady gas (trying to correct with oversteer was a last second attempt because it was obvious the car was not going to turn or stop), and i didnt slam on the brakes, i actually applied them very lightly and they instantly locked up because i was on ice. i do have snowtires on the car but it really doesnt make a differance on a sheet of ice.

and for those who were saying you shouldnt have a z unless you can afford something else for the winter what should i do? not buy the car that i want because occasionally i might get caught in snow? plus i stated that i was trying to get the car home out of the snow because it wasnt supposed to snow for another 7 hours and i had planned on it being in the garage before it started, so i dont routinely drive in the snow.

i think once you guys who are so high and mighty will feel pretty ****ty when you find yourself in a situation you cant help and you crash. plus a 5mph collision on a hill on an ice sheet leaves you with not a whole lot you can do. dont say it was my fault unless you were there because making assumptions like "slamming on the brakes" is bull**** because you dont know that i slammed on them. saying that the steering must've been at an extreme angle is also bull**** because again, how the **** do you know? **** happens and beleive it or not not all incidents are preventable.

 

Well let's begin with this, which you wrote:

"the abs started going crazy, i tried letting off the brakes to regain some steering, i tried letting up the steering to a less extreme angle to try and get traction,"

The ABS doesn't "go crazy" without your foot firmly planted on the brake. And you were the one mentioning the extreme angle of the wheel. The oversteer attempt was pretty ridiculous.


I've come from the land of eternal Ice and snow. You really can't tell me that your situation wasn't preventable. Hell, when I took my drivers test, there was a foot of ice on the roads, which hadn't been cleaned for months because the city ran out of snow removal budget.

Not ALL Incidents are preventable, but most are. And yours was. Instead, though, you choose to blame the ice rather than think what YOU could have done differently.

 

not the chitty rice!

 

People like you also suck who don't know how to type or spell for crap...

 

lol u dont have anything better to say and thats what you came up with?.. for your info my keyboard was busted cause i spilled water on it.

try again