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Old 08-09-2007 | 07:44 PM
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Thanks again for NOTHING Nissan!
Old 08-09-2007 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by oneDIRTYz
stfu if you don't know what you're talking about. the dealership has to prove that your aftermarket part is what caused the specific problem you've taken your car in for, and then the warranty for just THAT problem/part is voided. they can't just void your entire fuccing warranty if, for instance, you install an aftermarket oil cap or antenna. wtf. think before you type.
If you don't know WTF I'm talking about then may be it have never happen to you.

I am not in here to stand on the dealer side but just want to let you know that car manufacture/ dealer can have all the excuses to void your warranty.

If you don't fuccing know this then check with more different car brand and READ THE FUCCING FINE PRINTS!!!

My friend had a FORD SUV and one time he installed a aftermarket Audio with CD changer, about a year later the 4-wheel drive system start having problems, and it was WITHIN THE WARRANTY PERIOD.

So what the FUCC will an audio system have to do with the 4-wheel drive system, but that's the excuse from the FORD dealer, they said because the aftermarket audio system screw up the electrical system of the car and that caused the problem for the 4 wheel cause that's part of the electric system.

WHAT THE HELL and everybody know that's just a damn "excuse" but that's how dealer can get rid of paying warranty.

I can give you a second one:

A notice post in one of the BMW service department says that ANY modification to your car, expecially engine components, no matter is ECU, intake or exhaust or just a muffler, they MAY void the warranty.

Who doesn't know an aftermarket muffler won't cause any trouble to a drive chain or air/fuel sensor. BUT this can be their excuse.


Want a 3rd one??? Here you go: (AND THIS ONE IS FROM TOYOTA)

The mechanic can SURELY SAY the tire feather on one of the tire is caused by changing the tire to a different brand name.

My friend has a 4 Runner and he puts on a set of falken instead of Bridgestone(OEM), same size.

And the mechanic can blame that problem because of the tire and try to convince him to buy a new set from the dealer.

I don't know what I'm talking about???

I know much better than you guy!!!!

If you think I am standing behind the FUCCING dealer????

I NEVER BRING MY CAR TO DEALER UNLESS ONLY THEY CAN FIX IT OR IT MAY BE UNER WARRANTY, I HATE THEIR SERVICE DEPARTMENT AS MUCH AS YOU DO!!!!

My first post was only try to let you know, one mod on your car means one more reason for the dealer to excuse from their responsible, and the more mods you do , the more excuses they can have!!!!!

NOW, DO YOU FUCCING UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT?????

DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR ENOUGH????

ALSO, I AM NOT GOING TO BE A SERVICE MANAGER, I DON'T LIKE THAT JOB!!!

And, in this case, we are not talking about replacing a light bulb or a switch, we are looking at an engine that cost at least couple thousands of dollars, do you think they'll just replace it for you like a "click"???

They'll try to find out ANY evidence to excuse from their fault, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

Am I clear enough??

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Old 08-09-2007 | 10:37 PM
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Man what a greifer....
Old 08-09-2007 | 10:42 PM
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you're dealing with some sh1tty dealerships. we've got a couple here in socal that will do work with no consideration to warranty. i don't hate my dealership's service department... i actually would rather take my car to west covina nissan to be worked on, even for aftermarket parts, than many other mom-and-pop mechanic shops around here.
there are laws protecting consumers against dealerships blaming aftermarket parts for problems that are in no way connected to those parts.
SEMA has successfully lobbied to keep new car dealerships/service providers from denying warranty coverage because of a completely unrelated aftermarket parts. go read up on the magnuson-moss warranty act. it states that aftermarket parts do not automatically void an original warranty UNLESS the warranty EXPLICITY STATES that the addition of aftermarket parts will void the warranty, or if IT CAN BE PROVEN that the aftermarket part is the direct cause of the failure. in your examples, it sounds like your friend's dealership just buttraped him, and he stood there and took it. if you know your rights and are willing to fight for them, there's no reason why you should be taken for a ride like that. also, in your examples, "may" is the operative word. they can't just use your aftermarket muffler as an excuse not to do warranty work, unless they can prove beyond doubt that this is what caused the problem.

the issue is that people don't know their rights. they don't read up on the magnuson-moss warranty act before taking their car into the dealership for warranty work, so they don't know how to defend themselves against dumbass dealerships who try to screw them over.

edit: oh yeah, left out a part. if your aftermarket part is disallowing the technician to diagnose what's wrong with your car, then yes, they can void the warranty. for instance, if your mods compromise the service dept's ability to scan/read diagnostic codes, then yes, they can void your warranty. but what you're arguing is that they can use any aftermarket part as a reason to void an unrelated warranty. this is the issue i had with your original statement.

now, go have a beer and calm down. the world has ceased to crash down around your shoulders.

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Old 08-10-2007 | 04:35 AM
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jfc alcheng is stoopid.... have you ever heard of hte Magnuson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975?
Old 08-10-2007 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by alcheng
If you don't know WTF I'm talking about then may be it have never happen to you.

I am not in here to stand on the dealer side but just want to let you know that car manufacture/ dealer can have all the excuses to void your warranty.

If you don't fuccing know this then check with more different car brand and READ THE FUCCING FINE PRINTS!!!

My friend had a FORD SUV and one time he installed a aftermarket Audio with CD changer, about a year later the 4-wheel drive system start having problems, and it was WITHIN THE WARRANTY PERIOD.

So what the FUCC will an audio system have to do with the 4-wheel drive system, but that's the excuse from the FORD dealer, they said because the aftermarket audio system screw up the electrical system of the car and that caused the problem for the 4 wheel cause that's part of the electric system.

WHAT THE HELL and everybody know that's just a damn "excuse" but that's how dealer can get rid of paying warranty.

I can give you a second one:

A notice post in one of the BMW service department says that ANY modification to your car, expecially engine components, no matter is ECU, intake or exhaust or just a muffler, they MAY void the warranty.

Who doesn't know an aftermarket muffler won't cause any trouble to a drive chain or air/fuel sensor. BUT this can be their excuse.


Want a 3rd one??? Here you go: (AND THIS ONE IS FROM TOYOTA)

The mechanic can SURELY SAY the tire feather on one of the tire is caused by changing the tire to a different brand name.

My friend has a 4 Runner and he puts on a set of falken instead of Bridgestone(OEM), same size.

And the mechanic can blame that problem because of the tire and try to convince him to buy a new set from the dealer.

I don't know what I'm talking about???

I know much better than you guy!!!!

If you think I am standing behind the FUCCING dealer????

I NEVER BRING MY CAR TO DEALER UNLESS ONLY THEY CAN FIX IT OR IT MAY BE UNER WARRANTY, I HATE THEIR SERVICE DEPARTMENT AS MUCH AS YOU DO!!!!

My first post was only try to let you know, one mod on your car means one more reason for the dealer to excuse from their responsible, and the more mods you do , the more excuses they can have!!!!!

NOW, DO YOU FUCCING UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT?????

DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR ENOUGH????

ALSO, I AM NOT GOING TO BE A SERVICE MANAGER, I DON'T LIKE THAT JOB!!!

And, in this case, we are not talking about replacing a light bulb or a switch, we are looking at an engine that cost at least couple thousands of dollars, do you think they'll just replace it for you like a "click"???

They'll try to find out ANY evidence to excuse from their fault, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

Am I clear enough??
First, learn to use spell check or something because no you're not clear at all. It's hard to keep up with a word you're saying. The first problem you mentioned, it was a fuqing ford, what do you expect. Damn near every FORD dealer I've been to does that chit. The second one, they said MAY because if you read "the fine print" they probably tell you that it's voided IF it is the cause of the problem. And the third one, that was just plain stupid, how are you going to have tire feathering from just switching brands? That's USUALLY caused from wheels not balanced, needing an alignment, ect.

No reason to get your panties in a bunch just because someone said you were wrong...

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Old 08-10-2007 | 10:05 AM
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Damn man, you guys're still not getting my point.

Those examples I posted are not making sense, I know, and I was like "WTF" when I heard the story, but it is how dealer will make it up.

READ MY POST, I feel stupid with those examples too, but this is how dealer will act.

Yes, BMW MAY void the warranty, that mean they will or they will not void the warranty, they kepp it as their right.

I am just trying to say those dealers will do/ say anything to try to avoid paying for you.

And for Sco2355, which word(s) did I spell wrong???

6SPD Z33,

"jfc alcheng is stoopid.... have you ever heard of hte Magnuson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975? "

So have you even bring that up and show it to the dealer??? And does it work??

Please read, THINK and try to understand what I am talking about before you say I am stupid or want to "WTF" me.

thanks
Old 08-10-2007 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by alcheng

"jfc alcheng is stoopid.... have you ever heard of hte Magnuson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975? "

So have you even bring that up and show it to the dealer??? And does it work??
these are your rights as a consumer, man. if you're going to chicken out of bringing it up at your dealership because you assume it won't work, then you deserve to get your warranty voided for no reason. we can't let corporations rule our lives. you have to stand up to what you can.
Old 08-10-2007 | 10:19 AM
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That's some mess up **** dude.
I love my ride but always hated nissan dealership especially when it comes down to warranty. I tried to get my windows fixed(both side) after 60k, but no surprising, I paid $700& fixed them, of course not at the dealership.
I think after your heavily mod Z, oil consumpsion should increase cause I add about 2 qt in between regular oil change. But your Z drinks oil like water, probably need to change rings or check for leakage. You probably drive your car like a F-1 racer or something?!?
Old 08-11-2007 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
You lost me when you got to the new motor part.

they wanted me to pay 4000 on the motor because fred told me it was 9000. they could only cover 5. at that point i would have to pay extra laboe aswell. so we agreed on a block from kyle @ importpartspro.com its now together and waiting on the clutch a flywheel. the motor is 8:8.1
Old 08-13-2007 | 02:37 PM
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well friday Pat Pec Nissan were supposed to order a new clutch and flywheel so they can finish the car. I stoped by monday and to my surprise it was not. So I stuck around to make sure this time.

I found out another thing, there were suppose to perform the fuel line recall in all this mess, and it was nowhere on the order so I made sure it was put on there as well. Hopefully it will be running this friday.
Old 08-13-2007 | 03:47 PM
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I think Alcheng is just saying that if you put aftermarket parts on your car and go in for warranty work, expect to be hassled by the dealership. Although the dealership can't deny a warranty claim unless they can prove it was the aftermarket part that caused the problem, you know there still going to try. I guess they figure they have nothing to lose.

One of the reasons why I went all Nismo.
Old 08-14-2007 | 06:43 AM
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They have never hassled me about any aftermarket parts. The only things done to my car are wheels, nismo intake which i bought there, stillen exhaust which they tried to sell me there. The only other thing is the clutch and flywheel they sold me. They just did not want to warranty it all together.
Old 08-31-2007 | 08:07 PM
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well its aug 31st and the car is still not done. they have had the clutch for a week. everyday i am told it will be ready by the nexy day. now i am told they have a nissan specialist comming in sat b/c they can't figure out why the car doesnt run now.
The car starts but wont stay running. They told me they checked the timing and the compression. I was told the compression was about 145psi in three with one @135psi.
What do you gus think?
Reminder no turbo on the car yet with 8:8.1 Kyle @ importpartspro said it should still start and idel fine, just wont have much power.
Old 08-31-2007 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by oneDIRTYz
stfu if you don't know what you're talking about. the dealership has to prove that your aftermarket part is what caused the specific problem you've taken your car in for, and then the warranty for just THAT problem/part is voided. they can't just void your entire fuccing warranty if, for instance, you install an aftermarket oil cap or antenna. wtf. think before you type.
The factory just voided my drivetrain warantee on another car because they saw burnt rubber in the wheel wells and said I'd been racing. Factory doesn't warantee cars that have been raced. That was a costly mistake along with the aftermarket clutch showing up in there upon the tear down.

Thank God it was only $1600 to rebuild the tranny. I guess you have to pay to play. I've always kind of known that so I took it with a grain of salt.
The factory has honored all other issues with that car .... Window motors, broken center console clips, headlights and bad front wheel bearings.

So, I figure it's fair. I mean I twisted a input shaft on the tranny from racing on the track what should I have expected? Unfortunately, that ended my racing of that car at the track. On the plus side the wife allowed me to buy a race car for the track specific. '67 Camaro with 454. Oh yes, there is a silver lining.




Sorry to hear about your troubles. Hopefully, it will work out OK for you. Good Luck !!!

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Old 10-01-2007 | 04:45 PM
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well, I finaly pais a little cash to the dealership. They were approved for another $2500 to tear motor #2 apart. I just told them to forget it and to put that towards my bill. I paid $972 friday and told them to put the intake and all the little stuff back together as if I would try starting the car.

I was told it would be back together monday/today and they would call me when it was done. Big surprise, no call again.

I will be shipping the car up to forged performance as soon as they get there driver down here to pick it up. I think I wil feel a lot better once they have the car.
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Originally Posted by Z_Driver
The factory just voided my drivetrain warantee on another car because they saw burnt rubber in the wheel wells and said I'd been racing. Factory doesn't warantee cars that have been raced. That was a costly mistake along with the aftermarket clutch showing up in there upon the tear down.

Thank God it was only $1600 to rebuild the tranny. I guess you have to pay to play. I've always kind of known that so I took it with a grain of salt.
The factory has honored all other issues with that car .... Window motors, broken center console clips, headlights and bad front wheel bearings.

So, I figure it's fair. I mean I twisted a input shaft on the tranny from racing on the track what should I have expected? Unfortunately, that ended my racing of that car at the track. On the plus side the wife allowed me to buy a race car for the track specific. '67 Camaro with 454. Oh yes, there is a silver lining.

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Hopefully, it will work out OK for you. Good Luck !!!
So that means I probably should remove the SCCA Solo sticker and take my helmet and numbers off the back seat before service?

Actually they've been very good about my JWT clutch and FW, it's not like you can hide that at idle due to a bit of chatter. Twisted an input shaft??? Is that from launching on a strip, or road course laps? That amount sounds like a good compromise on the part of the dealer, I've paid nearly that for a trans rebuild in another car. Easier for them to just say "you need a new trans, $5k please".

Nice Camaro, best year made. Friend of mine had one darn close to that in the mid-1970's - what a monster, in a good way.
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Originally Posted by PM-Performance
Get a lawyer. You should not have paid for anything extra other then the aftermarket parts you put in
Unfortunately though with no documentation you might fall into some probs
Consult a lawyer though for sure.
i would be flaming like you cannot imagine. i would be banned from the dealer for death threats.

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So that means I probably should remove the SCCA Solo sticker and take my helmet and numbers off the back seat before service?

Actually they've been very good about my JWT clutch and FW, it's not like you can hide that at idle due to a bit of chatter. Twisted an input shaft??? Is that from launching on a strip, or road course laps? That amount sounds like a good compromise on the part of the dealer, I've paid nearly that for a trans rebuild in another car. Easier for them to just say "you need a new trans, $5k please".

Nice Camaro, best year made. Friend of mine had one darn close to that in the mid-1970's - what a monster, in a good way.
I wish that was a compromise. The dealer just put it back together and I had it towed to my favorite transmission shop. They installed some hardened parts including the input shaft at the time of the rebuild of my T-56. GM never paid a cent. They even wanted to charge me for teardown. At least, they didn't get away with that. All out of my pocket and they voided the drivetrain warantee. It went into the computer and I was always questioned about it everytime I took my car in after that.

Twisted input shaft from launches at the strip and 50ft burnouts in third. Doh !!! I was taking the car to the limit and with a dual friction in there the clutch wasn't going to blow.

If it was me .... yes I'd take off your stickers and not give them a reason to void your warantee. It was the first time it happened to me but, there was no way out short of suing them. Just not worth time or trouble .... Plus, what's really right here? If I broke it on the street driving ... that would be one thing but, I was racing the car at the track. I expect to play for broken parts while racing. Don't forget .... If you wreck at the track your insurance won't fix your car either.

Just keeping it real ....

Good luck OP .... I wish you all the possible luck on getting your car back on the road - low $ out of your pocket I hope. It's nice to have extended warantee on street cars. Good show on that one.

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Old 10-02-2007 | 07:53 AM
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After reading most of the posts, I have one burning question, "Do they still teach spelling in our schools?"


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