I bought a used Z yesterday. I paid $21,000 plus the taxes from a BMW store, it is an 03 with 34,000 miles. I know it is a bit steep, should have been $19,000-20,000?. Came with Pioneer head unit, new 10" speaker and amp, XM ready which I just ordered tonight. Now, onto the confusion.

I have black leather seats. It is a manual 6 speed. Curtain Airbags. Beleive it came stock with the better sound system, though the Sub is a Diamond so I don't know if it was added later. My question arose at Tire Discounters today. Started looking for rims and checked my rim/tire size. The tire clearly says 235/50WR17 which shows to be the standard 17" size with enthusiast. Is my car a touring and I got shafted on the rims? Or is it enthusiast? Or did they just use those rims when the car came out in 03 and have changed since on touring to larger ones? Thanks fellas

 

look over at the buttons on the left side under your steering wheel. Does it have VDC or no?

 

the leather means its a touring.

 

I'll check VDC in the morning, too tired to walk out. And yes, I assumed by the leather it meant touring.

Oh, btw. Been reading up on any possible problems in the future. Tyre feathering, whats that?

 

My moms coworker has leather on his enthusiast. It was brand new when he bought it also. So that means nothing.

 

why would u just buy a car randomly without knowing the trim?

 

Yeah, check the vdc button. Enthusiast and base didn't have it. Only performance and up does. If you only see a traction control, then it's enthusiast.

Also, you can run a carfax. You should of done this before you bought the car anyways and it will tell you and will never lie.

 

I bought it through a connection at BMW. Got a great offer on my Civic, much faster than expected. This was the car I was looking at when the offer came, took the offer and needed to have the new car fast. Didnt have time to search for others. I'll check VDC, you say next to the buttons on the left?

 

I saw TCS only, with the same size black plastic part were another buttom of the same could be placed to the right of TCS. Do not see VDC anywhere. So I guess that does make mine an Enthusiast with leather seats?

 

yup, you got it.

 

Well ****.. is $21,000 too much? Ended up being $22,650 after taxes etc from BMW. Its got 34,000 miles. Looks brand new. Aftermarket sub with amp, XM radio and Pioneer head unit. Far as I can tell that's all. Should I go back to BMW and complain or is there really anything I can do? If $21,000 isn't terrible, I'll leave it alone. I just went from a riced up 2003 honda civic to this, I am 21 years old and in college. My dad paid for $10,000 of it.

 

well, it's really not bad of a price. I work at a dealership myself as a salesman and taxes etc, you can't get around that. As long as the car runs good, good shape, you didn't get ripped off, that's for sure.

You got leather seats which is a plus but the only thing is that you have 17" wheels. I wouldn't bring it back.

btw, please run a carfax if you ever buy a car again.

 

you can purchase any car with leather seats.

whether you chose to add that option or not is up to you. just because these are leather seats does not make it that trim. sometimes, adding the leather seat option is less expensive than buying that specific trim.

I would've put out a little more cash for an 07 base. it's your cash, but that's just me. as long as your happy.

 

I am very happy with it since I wanted a Z for over a year now. Can't complain to join your family either. Been reading these threads past couple days, everyone seems pretty friendly. I plan to put aftermarket rims on and keep these for the winter, long as I can afford 18" or 19". Prolly can't touch suspension with my cash, so whatever will fit.

Don't worry, carfax will be a gurantee next car in 4-5 years. Just didnt have time to really do that. Sold my civic Friday and bought this Saturday.

 

damn, sorry to hear u got jipped... enjoy the car tho!! wat can u do!!

 

I paid $21,500 in May 2006 for my 2003 Enthusiast. It had 32k miles at the time. They were asking $22,000; I could only get them down $500 due to it being a sports car and May.

I'd say you paid a little more than you should have. You do have leather though.

 

Don't sweat the deal now, its done and over. If you like the car, focus on enjoying her!

 

Yes, for a 4 year old car, hence why they gave you so much for you Civic! Oh and dealers don't play anything extar for add ons like stereo, subs, rims, ect!

 

I guess it depends on your area.

NEW 2007 Enthusiasts here are going for 25.5

2003 Enthusiast with low miles would prolly fetch 17 or so here.

 

yeah, you paid too much, I got my 04.5 performance with 17,500 miles + mods for 20K in May.