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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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I have to politely disagree. It is made of quality materials, however when it comes to improving overall response and handling.... you should spend an equal amount of effort towards both power and weight improvements. Depending on what it is that you want to do with the car. We can take a 60lb door, and bring it down to 20lb's, and the roof (assuming you might do track) another 45 to 50lb's. The trunk, about 70lb's off is possible. Here is a prototype dry carbon hood just out of the mold for our sponsored race car. It weighs 9lb's, which is 15lb's lighter than the stock aluminum hood. Throwing HP at a car does improve acceleration. But weight reduction will improve braking time, reduce tire wear, improve acceleration and allow for later braking in turns. These are all benefits of weight reduction, HP increase improves just acceleration.
For those that think that CF and light wt is awesome, try this link http://youtube.com/watch?v=R7wOrGwTkL4 Imagine sitting on a seat with nothing around you when you crash.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Z04
was actually referring to the CF doors, but yeah those CF shards can be a ****
oh yeah, you'd be f-ed then
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by kognition
Sooo the windshield shattering is not a concern? Just a carbon hood huh? lol.... you guys are cracking me up.
Nope, the windshield will not shatter into shards. It has plastic layer in it and it is tempered.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kognition
Sooo the windshield shattering is not a concern? Just a carbon hood huh? lol.... you guys are cracking me up. You oem hood is aluminum ! And shattering CF? CF will only "snap" at the stress point. It doesn't shatter like glass if that is what you think. Your typical market CF hood has one layer of 6 or 12 ounce carbon fabric. The rest is fiberglass and resin.
Oh I'd still be worried about the windshield. That just wasnt a point in our conversation, we were discussing CF vs the stock hood.

I know CF wont shatter like glass, but will it break into two clean pieces on either side of the stress point or would there be shards?
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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And so the thin layer of carbon fiber on an after market hood is supposed to penetrate this fortified layer of glass with a mass over 100 times that of carbon fiber? You guys are serious? You have definitely never been on a track before and seen carbon fiber breaking apart. Holy jesus.

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Nope, the windshield will not shatter into shards. It has plastic layer in it and it is tempered.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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If you crash hard enough that your windshield shatters, a breaking carbon hood is the very last thing you should be concerned with. I have been in a crash and rollover with a carbon hood, a cheap chinese carbon hood at that. Nothing.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kognition
And so the thin layer of carbon fiber on an after market hood is supposed to penetrate this fortified layer of glass with a mass over 100 times that of carbon fiber? You guys are serious? You have definitely never been on a track before and seen carbon fiber breaking apart. Holy jesus.
i dont think it would penetrate the windshield, I figured it would get into the cabin other ways, pieces coming in through the window maybe?
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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I don't know, it doesn't seem like a real potential problem. Armchair theory mostly. My roof on my S14 is all carbon fiber. But then again, i use a helmet in that car.

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i dont think it would penetrate the windshield, I figured it would get into the cabin other ways, pieces coming in through the window maybe?
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kognition
I don't know, it doesn't seem like a real potential problem. Armchair theory mostly. My roof on my S14 is all carbon fiber. But then again, i use a helmet in that car.
oh yeah, definitely just armchair theory, but thats what I get paid for.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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modified350z car looks like a tibouron.lol
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