also, what minimum height should i look for to get under the Z?...4" seems pretty standard

 

Any real car enthusiast should buy. Specially if you will be modding cars for the rest of your lives, like I hope to do. Plus you can make money of it. I paid $1800 for mine (lift is very smilier the pic above) and that includes shipping. Only took two days to get. Will need forklift to unload. Ramps are heavy.