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Originally Posted by BADASSTT
There just pissed that there cars are slow like pigs. And that are Z's in stock trim spank them.
stretched tires look like crap.
I dont know why so many people are crazy about it.
I agree with the ppl on that stang forum. Its just stupid. Our cars arent made to fit such wide wheels. If you want wider wheels, do it right and get wider fenders and use tires that FIT.
I agree with the ppl on that stang forum. Its just stupid. Our cars arent made to fit such wide wheels. If you want wider wheels, do it right and get wider fenders and use tires that FIT.
Originally Posted by 2boosted4u
i use to have a lightning and there is no way a stock z would beat a lightning stock.. lightnings run 13.5-13.8 depending on driver and cobras are in the 12's... my lightning with just a new pulley and custom tune ran a 12.86
Most of that stuff does look pretty gay. However, I do have a little bit of knowledge on how that "style" came about(I'm still learning so all of it may not be there)...
Believe it or not, most people that do this don't do it for looks. They do it for performance. The Japanese have been stretching their tires (properly) long before the idiots learned of the technique. (keep in mind while reading this that all my information comes from and was learned in Japan, and things are a little different over there)
People do this with lower powered cars like Toyota Corollas (AE86's) and s13 Silvia's and such for drifting. Stretching the tires helps break the back tires loose easier when a driver is performing a feint, power over, or any similar technique. Minimal flex from the sidewall when under stress causes this. The ideal set-up is to use a low-profile tire with enough sidewall so that when the tire is stretched the bead can be set and can be driven safely, using a profile too low can be dangerous when driven on the streets and even more so on the track.
The reasoning behind the "60% of tire on the ground" is to get a better contact patch when in a corner. Most grip racers and drifters set up their camber around roughly -0.3 degrees. This gives the tire a higher contact patch when under stress in a corner, increasing grip, thus allowing for a higher speed to be taken through a corner.
Angling the rims/tires in this fashion also gives clearance in the wheel well. This allows for the car to be lowered further, lowering the car's center of gravity, also increasing grip. In Japan the roads are much smoother than those in America. Car's can safely be much lower and suspension set-ups can be much stiffer.
Hope this helps.
Believe it or not, most people that do this don't do it for looks. They do it for performance. The Japanese have been stretching their tires (properly) long before the idiots learned of the technique. (keep in mind while reading this that all my information comes from and was learned in Japan, and things are a little different over there)
People do this with lower powered cars like Toyota Corollas (AE86's) and s13 Silvia's and such for drifting. Stretching the tires helps break the back tires loose easier when a driver is performing a feint, power over, or any similar technique. Minimal flex from the sidewall when under stress causes this. The ideal set-up is to use a low-profile tire with enough sidewall so that when the tire is stretched the bead can be set and can be driven safely, using a profile too low can be dangerous when driven on the streets and even more so on the track.
The reasoning behind the "60% of tire on the ground" is to get a better contact patch when in a corner. Most grip racers and drifters set up their camber around roughly -0.3 degrees. This gives the tire a higher contact patch when under stress in a corner, increasing grip, thus allowing for a higher speed to be taken through a corner.
Angling the rims/tires in this fashion also gives clearance in the wheel well. This allows for the car to be lowered further, lowering the car's center of gravity, also increasing grip. In Japan the roads are much smoother than those in America. Car's can safely be much lower and suspension set-ups can be much stiffer.
Hope this helps.
Originally Posted by preludestuntin
The reasoning behind the "60% of tire on the ground" is to get a better contact patch when in a corner. Most grip racers and drifters set up their camber around roughly -0.3 degrees. This gives the tire a higher contact patch when under stress in a corner, increasing grip, thus allowing for a higher speed to be taken through a corner.
Originally Posted by BADASSTT
I really dont know too much about the cobra. I just learned today that they are factory supercharged. Thats cool but they still look like *** compared to the Z. As far as the lightning I can tell you from experience that I ran one in my 91 TwinTurbo Z automatic and he got his *** handed down to him. I ran him from a dead stop and from a roll and it was no match. After I spoke to the owner he told me that he was running an upgraded pulley and a bigger intercooler.
PS the intercooler is for the air to water cooler under the super charger so it doesnt do n e thing power wise it barely decreases the temp pretty much a waste of money
Last edited by 2boosted4u; Jan 8, 2008 at 11:22 PM.
Originally Posted by terrasmak
A little higher on the camber , our cars run between -1.3 to -2.1 degrees negative from the factory, where -2.0 t0 -3.0 for the track. The one i posted the pic of is -6 where it shows the 60%.
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