Which Z is faster?
04-18-2008, 10:27 AM
#62
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Better driver? Doubtful since the guy has ran track events a lot. He just couldn't take the turns well. He had a completely suspension setup too, no idea what he had, but it just didn't seem to handle that well. My G35 had Stillen Sways and that was all for suspension but I had some nice F1 tires and light weight Kosei wheels. The 350Z/G are known to handle better than the ZX anyways. The G sedan only weighs around 3300-3400lb. It doesn't weigh that much.
04-18-2008, 10:28 AM
#63
Registered User
Originally Posted by scotts300
I was there in 2006, driven from NorCal, in my black Z32TT. Most of those guys are NOT track guys. They are enthusiasts that joined up for a track event. I ran low boost, around 440rwhp that day, and I promise you that no G35 Sedans passed me. 
We also drove TMS.
We also drove TMS.
04-18-2008, 10:32 AM
#64
Originally Posted by JSDZ33
word. LOL at G35 SEDAN... maybe a G35 coupe with some bolt ons, a nice tune, super sticky tires and light wheels, and every suspension mod there is could keep up with a Z32 with 400-450 WHP on a track...
BTW, it's has a LOT more to do with driver than power.
04-18-2008, 10:32 AM
#65
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Better driver? Doubtful since the guy has ran track events a lot. He just couldn't take the turns well. He had a completely suspension setup too, no idea what he had, but it just didn't seem to handle that well. My G35 had Stillen Sways and that was all for suspension but I had some nice F1 tires and light weight Kosei wheels. The 350Z/G are known to handle better than the ZX anyways. The G sedan only weighs around 3300-3400lb. It doesn't weigh that much.
04-18-2008, 10:34 AM
#67
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Originally Posted by scotts300
How about THIS G35 Sedan?
BTW, it's has a LOT more to do with driver than power.
BTW, it's has a LOT more to do with driver than power.
04-18-2008, 10:35 AM
#68
Originally Posted by JSDZ33
easy Tanabe, eeeaaasssyyyyy... speaking from experience here tom.
as I said, it's a ridiculous assertion. It comes down to drivers in almost any case where the stock suspension car would win and then it is not what anyone was comparing. it's a variable you cannot quantify.
Last edited by Motormouth; 04-18-2008 at 10:41 AM.
04-18-2008, 10:39 AM
#69
Originally Posted by scotts300
I was there in 2006, driven from NorCal, in my black Z32TT. Most of those guys are NOT track guys. They are enthusiasts that joined up for a track event. I ran low boost, around 440rwhp that day, and I promise you that no G35 Sedans passed me. We also drove TMS.
We also drove TMS.TMS doesn't count since they had it locked down to 55 mph. But again, the Z32 can not handle as good as the 350z or G35. It is a plain fact.
04-18-2008, 10:39 AM
#70
Registered User
Originally Posted by Motormouth
yes, and a stock suspension anything on a racetrack will not be as fast as a track prepped car with full handling and braking.
as I said, it's a ridiculous assertion.
as I said, it's a ridiculous assertion.
04-18-2008, 10:41 AM
#71
Originally Posted by scotts300
The driver is always a crap shoot. At these events, someone with a stock Miata could pass someone else with a 500rwhp Z32TT. There are some really good Z32TT trackers that were at the event, but I'm sure they were in the most aggressive group. I forget if that was blue? Regardless, track, car, driver, all play equally as-important factors. I've had people approach me at track events (driving our stock Z33 ZR with sticky tires, sway bars, and Brembos) and ask how much the TT kit cost!
04-18-2008, 10:42 AM
#72
Originally Posted by JSDZ33
he didnt make it sound like his car was "track prepped" sounded to me like all he was saying was... i have a heavy *** G sedan with some coilovers and i can totally take out Z32 TT's with over 400 WHP on a track. in which he would be horribly wrong.
04-18-2008, 10:43 AM
#73
Originally Posted by JSDZ33
word. LOL at G35 SEDAN... maybe a G35 coupe with some bolt ons, a nice tune, super sticky tires and light wheels, and every suspension mod there is could keep up with a Z32 with 400-450 WHP on a track...
HP doesn't mean JACK on some tracks like MSR. It's all about how the car handles the turns.
04-18-2008, 10:46 AM
#75
Originally Posted by Motormouth
lol, phrased that way, I agree. the brakes could not handle two hard laps on a sedan.
04-18-2008, 10:47 AM
#76
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
At that event there was Green, Blue, yellow, Red and White. Green = Novice, Blue next step up, yellow = Advanced, Red = top of them all and white is instructors.
04-18-2008, 10:55 AM
#78
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Was in yellow at first, moved up to Red later.
SPLs Z32 is out of comission at the moment. Engine problems. I know Sean personally. :P
SPLs Z32 is out of comission at the moment. Engine problems. I know Sean personally. :P
As I'm sure you could tell, I wasn't doubting the ability of the Z33 platform. I absolutely love tracking our Z33.
The power of my Z32 is a hoot on a HP course like Laguna Seca, but only the front stretch of MSR really allowed me to open her up. The entire track was new to me - thankfully I had a few of the veterans to follow for the first few laps.
04-18-2008, 10:58 AM
#80
Originally Posted by scotts300
Sean is my Z32/Z33 buddy.
As I'm sure you could tell, I wasn't doubting the ability of the Z33 platform. I absolutely love tracking our Z33. The power of my Z32 is a hoot on a HP course like Laguna Seca, but only the front stretch of MSR really allowed me to open her up. The entire track was new to me - thankfully I had a few of the veterans to follow for the first few laps.
As I'm sure you could tell, I wasn't doubting the ability of the Z33 platform. I absolutely love tracking our Z33.
The power of my Z32 is a hoot on a HP course like Laguna Seca, but only the front stretch of MSR really allowed me to open her up. The entire track was new to me - thankfully I had a few of the veterans to follow for the first few laps.Yea, MSR front stretch was the only place too. I hit 4th on that part of the track, but after a bit learned to just let it hit the limiter and leave it. So that was around 100 mph somewhere.