Which Z is faster?
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Better driver? Doubtful since the guy has ran track events a lot. He just couldn't take the turns well. He had a completely suspension setup too, no idea what he had, but it just didn't seem to handle that well. My G35 had Stillen Sways and that was all for suspension but I had some nice F1 tires and light weight Kosei wheels. The 350Z/G are known to handle better than the ZX anyways. The G sedan only weighs around 3300-3400lb. It doesn't weigh that much.
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#63
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Originally Posted by scotts300
I was there in 2006, driven from NorCal, in my black Z32TT. Most of those guys are NOT track guys. They are enthusiasts that joined up for a track event. I ran low boost, around 440rwhp that day, and I promise you that no G35 Sedans passed me.
We also drove TMS.
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Originally Posted by JSDZ33
word. LOL at G35 SEDAN... maybe a G35 coupe with some bolt ons, a nice tune, super sticky tires and light wheels, and every suspension mod there is could keep up with a Z32 with 400-450 WHP on a track...
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BTW, it's has a LOT more to do with driver than power.
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Better driver? Doubtful since the guy has ran track events a lot. He just couldn't take the turns well. He had a completely suspension setup too, no idea what he had, but it just didn't seem to handle that well. My G35 had Stillen Sways and that was all for suspension but I had some nice F1 tires and light weight Kosei wheels. The 350Z/G are known to handle better than the ZX anyways. The G sedan only weighs around 3300-3400lb. It doesn't weigh that much.
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Originally Posted by scotts300
How about THIS G35 Sedan?
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BTW, it's has a LOT more to do with driver than power.
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BTW, it's has a LOT more to do with driver than power.
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Originally Posted by JSDZ33
easy Tanabe, eeeaaasssyyyyy... speaking from experience here tom.
as I said, it's a ridiculous assertion. It comes down to drivers in almost any case where the stock suspension car would win and then it is not what anyone was comparing. it's a variable you cannot quantify.
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Originally Posted by scotts300
I was there in 2006, driven from NorCal, in my black Z32TT. Most of those guys are NOT track guys. They are enthusiasts that joined up for a track event. I ran low boost, around 440rwhp that day, and I promise you that no G35 Sedans passed me.
We also drove TMS.
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TMS doesn't count since they had it locked down to 55 mph. But again, the Z32 can not handle as good as the 350z or G35. It is a plain fact.
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
yes, and a stock suspension anything on a racetrack will not be as fast as a track prepped car with full handling and braking.
as I said, it's a ridiculous assertion.
as I said, it's a ridiculous assertion.
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Originally Posted by scotts300
The driver is always a crap shoot. At these events, someone with a stock Miata could pass someone else with a 500rwhp Z32TT. There are some really good Z32TT trackers that were at the event, but I'm sure they were in the most aggressive group. I forget if that was blue? Regardless, track, car, driver, all play equally as-important factors. I've had people approach me at track events (driving our stock Z33 ZR with sticky tires, sway bars, and Brembos) and ask how much the TT kit cost! ![Smilie](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Originally Posted by JSDZ33
he didnt make it sound like his car was "track prepped" sounded to me like all he was saying was... i have a heavy *** G sedan with some coilovers and i can totally take out Z32 TT's with over 400 WHP on a track. in which he would be horribly wrong.
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Originally Posted by JSDZ33
word. LOL at G35 SEDAN... maybe a G35 coupe with some bolt ons, a nice tune, super sticky tires and light wheels, and every suspension mod there is could keep up with a Z32 with 400-450 WHP on a track...
HP doesn't mean JACK on some tracks like MSR. It's all about how the car handles the turns.
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
lol, phrased that way, I agree. the brakes could not handle two hard laps on a sedan.
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
At that event there was Green, Blue, yellow, Red and White. Green = Novice, Blue next step up, yellow = Advanced, Red = top of them all and white is instructors.
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Was in yellow at first, moved up to Red later.
SPLs Z32 is out of comission at the moment. Engine problems. I know Sean personally. :P
SPLs Z32 is out of comission at the moment. Engine problems. I know Sean personally. :P
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As I'm sure you could tell, I wasn't doubting the ability of the Z33 platform. I absolutely love tracking our Z33.
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Originally Posted by scotts300
Sean is my Z32/Z33 buddy. ![Smilie](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
As I'm sure you could tell, I wasn't doubting the ability of the Z33 platform. I absolutely love tracking our Z33.
The power of my Z32 is a hoot on a HP course like Laguna Seca, but only the front stretch of MSR really allowed me to open her up. The entire track was new to me - thankfully I had a few of the veterans to follow for the first few laps.
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As I'm sure you could tell, I wasn't doubting the ability of the Z33 platform. I absolutely love tracking our Z33.
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Yea, MSR front stretch was the only place too. I hit 4th on that part of the track, but after a bit learned to just let it hit the limiter and leave it. So that was around 100 mph somewhere.