OK I have a question or two.

I have no shade in my driveway, can I do the zanos in full sun? or do I have to do it at dusk?

What is the complete list of Zanos stuff I have to buy for my car? Track so no leather. DO they sell stuff for wheels tires and interior?

New car is clay bar necessary? and if not initially when do you go to the clay bar? I mean is there a point where you have to strip off the Zanos and start over?

 

The instructions state that you can use the product in full sunlight although i didn't when i applied it to my car. I did try it on my moms older black grand am in full sunlight with the car really hot (wouldn't want to ruin mine hehehe) and it worked fine for me.

here is there website they have a complete list of products. you may be able to find a place locally but you may have to order it and have it shipped.

http://www.zainobros.com/

clay bar is not necessary but if you want perfection on a car that is older then it is useful. I used it on my prelude when it was coming up on three years old and i was amazed how much stuff it got off the paint. you see the most on the trunk lid, roof and hood - areas where water sits and then dries. the clay would be black with crud after a few strokes in these areas. after claying and then waxing the body felt like silk to the touch with no imprefections. personally for the time spent it was worth it.

on a new car i would not clay the first time. Just apply the wax and a couple of coats to protect it. but i personally set aside one day a year to totally devote to my car and detail the whole thing. In canada i do that right after winter on the first warm day. Usually i can do inside and out and the engine bay in one day. like i said my car is three years old and winter driven but when it is clean it looks better then the day i picked it up from the lot. To me that is worth one day a year and then regular maintanence in between.

so yes i would say plan to strip and redo the car once a year with regular waxings in between to maintain protection and shine. But that really depends on whether it is a daily driver or not. if you are only driving it on weekends you will get a lot longer out of the one waxing.

 

I plan on using the Zymol system using their Japon wax. The Japon wax is specifically designed for Japanese cars with dark paints that have a tendency to get swirl marks easily. It is a fairly expensive proposition (about $150 for everything you need), but from what I've seen, it is well worth it. Zymol has the highest carnuba content of any wax out there (32-61% compared to the 2 or 3% in most waxes). This makes it very durable and helps prevent chips and scratches. It is also fairly easy to apply and it will not turn white on black trim pieces which makes it even easier. Zymol also makes many high quality products for the interior and even for the seals around the doors, windows, etc.
Another good choice is the Meguiars Gold Class. It is a lot cheaper and give a car a great shine. It is fairly long lasting too.
As for Zaino, my brother is a big believer in Zaino and uses it on his car regularly, but personally, I prefer the look wax gives a car. The best advice I can give is try everything you can and see what you like the best.

 

I agree it is really a matter of personal taste. I have a light coloured car (silver) and really all waxes do not make a huge difference on it shine wise because of the clear coat. It is more of a protectant thing for me. If i ever buy a dark car i would start over and try natural waxes on it to see which one I liked the best. But i have always been a fan of the ultra shiney hard shell look instead of the wet look. Just my personal taste.

Try some different things to see what you like. Or talk to some people and take a look at their cars see what they use and choose from that. Thats how i got onto zaino.

 

http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html

Found this test of zymol vs zaino on an NSX site - linked from a prelude borad. not really about the longterm effectivness of the products but what it looks and feels like after a month.

 

Ok Wax Heads,,,,,,,,,,,,,!

I have been looking for a power buffer to wax and unwax my truck for a while.. What is a good one to buy and what is the idea behind using one? What im asking is what is the process and what kind of buffing pads?, would a guy use. I guess that you will have to change them out after each Buff.

I was thinking of hooking a buffing pad up to my cordless drill, but i dont want to look like white trash, ( no offense to any white thrash people reading this)

So what is a good power-buffer to buy and walk me through the steps really quick.

Thanks
Craig.

 

buy zaino and don't use a buffer. You don't need one to apply and take off - zaino is that easy.

 

most of the discussion has been for dark colors, I'm getting silversone and have a question:
1) will a better wax ie Zaino make a differance over a quicker method. I'm not concerned with the money as much as the time investment. any suggestions of a quick easy way to keep the car looking fairly good would be helpful.

 

i don't understand when people talk about zaino taking longer to put on. If you want you can just do the pre stuff z-1 and then the wax goes over it - you wait until it is dry and wipe off. and when i mean you wipe it off all you do is take a 100 percent cotten towel and it comes off so easy. the only time involves is waiting for it to dry but it depends on the temp for that. I have had it dry in 10 or 15 minutes before when it was really hot.

So it is easy on easy off and the only time involved in waiting for dry. also unless you use the quick curing additive you are suppose to wait 24 hours to do another coat.

in the past i have washed my car - did the pre stuff - zainoed it and waited to dry and wiped off all in about 2 hours. mind you 30 minutes of that is going to be drying time. to put on another coat, if you don't have to wash, can take less then an hour if it is hot out and dries fast.

if time is a concern and money isn't take it to a professinal detailer and have them wax it for you.

like i said before i use it on my silver prelude. to me on a lighter cars different waxes don't make that much of a difference in shine. I think with 3 coats of zaino it is the best shine i have ever gotten on the car. the car is silky smooth still two month after i did the major work (first time iused zaino). The natural based waxes i used never felt like that for this long. Water beads perfectly still and the shine was just as good as the day i applied it.

 

actually that sound pretty easy, even I can do it. so do you wash then Z-1 then wipe then wax then dry and wipe? or just apply the Z-1 then the wax with out wiping the z-1 off. and does the z-1 need to dry?

 

if it is the first time you are doing it you have to use a mild detergent like dawn to make sure to get any wax or residue off the car. Z1 is the pre cleaner and gloss conditioner. you only have to use it when the car is bare of all waxes and before your first coat of Z2 - the wax for clear coated cars. Process for first time

1 - wash car with dawn - dry
2 - z1
3 - do not wipe apply z2 right over
4 - wait until dry - if cooler up to 1 hour - as little as 10 -15 minutes.
5- wipe off with 100 percent cotton towels
6 - spray on z6 and wipe (optional) gloss enhancing spray - like quick detailer.

normal time after initial time has been done.

wash the car with proper car wash and dry

apply coat of z2 wait until dry and then wipe.

optional spray z6 on and wipe off.

done

Personally i would only strip the car maybe once a year and redo. If the car was darker in colour i might do it more to make sure the car was protected.

 

...McGuiers glazes, various carnubas (pure, no polish or cleaners) and Zymol - until now. I just did the Zaino treatment using Z5 & Z2 with their new ZXF accelerator and its what I'm going to stick with. Far superior results compared to anything else I've ever tried (and this is my third black vehicle so I've learned all the tricks).

The thing about it is that, while you build it in layers and it does take a bit longer to do the initial treatment, its far easier to wipe off than the buffing McGuiers and the carnubas require. The other thing is that after you are done it doesnt melt and smear the way carnubas do in the direct sun on hot days. In the end I have never seen so few swirls and scratches on a black car. It fills them better than any other wax and positively glows.

joe

 

You must not have tried Zaino.

(coming from somebody that just converted from Meguiars two months ago, and it VERY happy)

 

As I have stated above, "I've tried damn near every wax product on EARTH!" YES! Zaino is a fantastic product! NO it is not that much better than Meguiars when you talk dollars & cents or should I say DOLLARS & SENSE!

 

I will use the following products:

Polish and wax: Malm's polish and Malm's wax. This is commonly known for marine and aircraft use but is the best wax and polish I have ever used or seen.

Interior:
Leather seats: Griots Gargage leather cleaner and conditioner.

Plastic pieces: Mcguire's vinyl treatment

Windows: Griots Garage window cleaner

Tires: Mcguire's Vinyl and Rubber Treatment

Under The Hood: Mcguire's vinyl and rubber treatment, never-dull, and several other secrets which everyone else will have to wonder about.