Lease #s From NMAC
Standard residuals 24m/65% 36m/57% 39m/56% 42m/51% 48m/47% 60m/41%
Enthusiast residuals same as Standard
Performance 24m/62% 36m/55% 39m/54% 42m/49% 48m/45% 60m/40%
Touring 24m/64% 36m/52% 39m/51% 42m/50% 48m/46% 60m/41%
Track 24m/58% 36m/52% 39m/51% 42m/46% 48m/43% 60m/38%
These are all 15K per year and they are offering a 12K and 10K
per year. 12K miles per year will add 1% to the residual for 48M and 2% for 60.
The 10K will add 1% for 36,39,42,48 and 2% for60m
I do not know if they are the same in all regions, but we are in the south central region.
I hope this helps.
Enthusiast residuals same as Standard
Performance 24m/62% 36m/55% 39m/54% 42m/49% 48m/45% 60m/40%
Touring 24m/64% 36m/52% 39m/51% 42m/50% 48m/46% 60m/41%
Track 24m/58% 36m/52% 39m/51% 42m/46% 48m/43% 60m/38%
These are all 15K per year and they are offering a 12K and 10K
per year. 12K miles per year will add 1% to the residual for 48M and 2% for 60.
The 10K will add 1% for 36,39,42,48 and 2% for60m
I do not know if they are the same in all regions, but we are in the south central region.
I hope this helps.
I sell the cars not the money
They do not give those to us, due to the fact that the money factor can be marked up and if you opt for no security deposit they will add that to the money factor.
sorry
They do not give those to us, due to the fact that the money factor can be marked up and if you opt for no security deposit they will add that to the money factor.
sorry
It looks like the base and enthusiast are best deal in residuals? Is that probably because they have less options to devalue than the other models? With those kind of numbers the leases are going to be close to purchase it seems like it wont make sense to lease, I did a quick comparison, no gauranties on my numbers but using 0 down and a purchase price of 30200 for an Enthusiast with all options:
24 mo lease payment=641, residual=19630, payments=15391
36 mo lease payment=541, residual=17214, payments=19506
60 mo loan payment=605, balance @ 24 mo=19730, balance @ 36 mo= 13279.
Just at a quick glance it looks like it would be better to buy the only thing would be if at 2 years you decide that you want out of the car and the car is worth less than 19,000 with the lease you walk away and the loan you take a loss, I would be surprised if the car would be worth less than 19K after 2 years, I hope. Even with the 36 mo lease you are better off buying because although you would pay 2304 more in payments the balance on the loan would be 13279 while the residual would be 17214 resulting in the loan being better by 1658. I have never been a fan of leases I like the feeling that the car is mine even though I have a loan, so it seems that the 36 month lease would be the better option for those looking at monthly budget and not long term and the 24 month lease just doesn't make sense anyway. Just a thought for discusion I might be wrong.
24 mo lease payment=641, residual=19630, payments=15391
36 mo lease payment=541, residual=17214, payments=19506
60 mo loan payment=605, balance @ 24 mo=19730, balance @ 36 mo= 13279.
Just at a quick glance it looks like it would be better to buy the only thing would be if at 2 years you decide that you want out of the car and the car is worth less than 19,000 with the lease you walk away and the loan you take a loss, I would be surprised if the car would be worth less than 19K after 2 years, I hope. Even with the 36 mo lease you are better off buying because although you would pay 2304 more in payments the balance on the loan would be 13279 while the residual would be 17214 resulting in the loan being better by 1658. I have never been a fan of leases I like the feeling that the car is mine even though I have a loan, so it seems that the 36 month lease would be the better option for those looking at monthly budget and not long term and the 24 month lease just doesn't make sense anyway. Just a thought for discusion I might be wrong.
Originally posted by westpak
Just at a quick glance it looks like it would be better to buy the only thing would be if at 2 years you decide that you want out of the car and the car is worth less than 19,000 with the lease you walk away and the loan you take a loss, I would be surprised if the car would be worth less than 19K after 2 years, I hope. Even with the 36 mo lease you are better off buying because although you would pay 2304 more in payments the balance on the loan would be 13279 while the residual would be 17214 resulting in the loan being better by 1658. I have never been a fan of leases I like the feeling that the car is mine even though I have a loan, so it seems that the 36 month lease would be the better option for those looking at monthly budget and not long term and the 24 month lease just doesn't make sense anyway. Just a thought for discusion I might be wrong.
Just at a quick glance it looks like it would be better to buy the only thing would be if at 2 years you decide that you want out of the car and the car is worth less than 19,000 with the lease you walk away and the loan you take a loss, I would be surprised if the car would be worth less than 19K after 2 years, I hope. Even with the 36 mo lease you are better off buying because although you would pay 2304 more in payments the balance on the loan would be 13279 while the residual would be 17214 resulting in the loan being better by 1658. I have never been a fan of leases I like the feeling that the car is mine even though I have a loan, so it seems that the 36 month lease would be the better option for those looking at monthly budget and not long term and the 24 month lease just doesn't make sense anyway. Just a thought for discusion I might be wrong.
It is hard to say what I am going to do. I love leases, but I also love purchasing the vehicle. I will have to see the numbers at the dealership to decide.
Thanks to all for publishing these great numbers!
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Originally posted by ToddLuc
The other option is to get a 60 month lease, knowing it will be traded in on a new Z in 5 years. In 5 years, you will walk away from 4x% residual and re-purchase /lease a new one.
It is hard to say what I am going to do. I love leases, but I also love purchasing the vehicle. I will have to see the numbers at the dealership to decide.
Thanks to all for publishing these great numbers!
The other option is to get a 60 month lease, knowing it will be traded in on a new Z in 5 years. In 5 years, you will walk away from 4x% residual and re-purchase /lease a new one.
It is hard to say what I am going to do. I love leases, but I also love purchasing the vehicle. I will have to see the numbers at the dealership to decide.
Thanks to all for publishing these great numbers!
A much better option to the 60 month lease would be the loans that are structured as leases with a ballon payment at the end which you could pay or walk away from like a lease, this way you get the payments similar to a lease but the flexibility of a loan. My credit union offers that type and actually offer better milage features, I haven't check to see what their percentages are for the ballon payments but I would assume they would be similar to the lease residuals.
Last edited by westpak; Aug 17, 2002 at 07:38 PM.
Here are a couple of links that give you spreadsheets to calculate loans and leases, when you it asks for user name and password just hit cancel it will download anyway:
Lease spreadsheet
Loan spreadsheet
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Loan spreadsheet
Originally posted by 2003z
whats up with the tracks 24 mo residual????
whats up with the tracks 24 mo residual????
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