Z is number 5 on MSN
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Originally Posted by 350z_racer05
No their not
edit: let me just own you while I'm at it.
this is from wiki:
Now in its third generation, the MX5's first generation, the NA, sold over 400,000 units from 1989 to 1997 — with a 1.6 L (98 cu in) straight-4 engine to 1993, a 1.8 L (110 cu in) engine thereafter — recognizable by its pop-up headlights. The second generation (NB) was introduced in 1998 with a slight increase in engine power; it can be recognized by the fixed headlights, and the glass rear window. The third generation (NC) was introduced in 2005 with a 2.0 L (120 cu in) engine.
The MX-5 was conceived as an elemental small roadster — with light weight and minimal mechanical complexity limited only by legal and safety requirements; technologically modern, but a philosophically direct descendant of the small British roadsters of the 1960s such as the Triumph Spitfire, Austin-Healey Sprite, MG Midget and Lotus Elan.
The MX-5 was designed with a traditional front-engine, rear-wheel drive layout and four-wheel independent double wishbone suspension. It has a longitudinally-mounted four cylinder engine coupled to a manual transmission (5 speed for NA, 5 or 6 speed in NB & NC); an automatic transmission is a cost option.
The body is a conventional, but light, unibody or monocoque construction, with a (detachable) rear subframe. The MX-5 also incorporates a truss marketed as the Powerplant Frame (PPF) which connects the engine to the differential, minimizing flex and contributing to responsive handling. Many MX-5s feature limited slip differentials and anti-lock braking system. Traction control is an option available on NC models. The earlier cars weighed in at just over a ton, with engine power output usually 120 bhp (89 kW). The later cars were heavier, with higher power engines.
With an approximate 50:50 front/rear weight balance, the car has nearly neutral handling. Inducing oversteer is easy and very controllable, thus making the MX-5 a popular choice for amateur and stock racing, including, in the USA, the Sports Car Club of America's Solo2 autocross and Spec Miata race series.
Beginning with the third generation, Mazda consolidated worldwide marketing using the MX-5 name, though enthusiasts in the USA still refer to it as Miata, a name that means "reward" in Old High German.[2]
The MX-5 has won over 150 awards in its history,[citation needed] including making Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list seven times; Wheels Magazine 's Car of the Year for 1989 and 2005; Sports Car International's "best sports car of the 1990s" and "ten best sports cars of all time"; 2005-2006 Car of the Year Japan; and 2005 Australian Car of the Year.
sorry for the hijack.
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Originally Posted by Salvatorey
Can't you guys own your Z's without being so insecure that you have to be an obvious bigot about the majority anything that isnt a 350z?
If I wanted to slobber on another vehicle that wasn't a Z I'd visit 'said vehicles' enthusiast site. I certainly don't go to corvette forums and tout my Z.
However, if I feel the urge to start growing out the hair on the back of my head I might change my mind.
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Originally Posted by SargentZ
If I wanted to slobber on another vehicle that wasn't a Z I'd visit 'said vehicles' enthusiast site. I certainly don't go to corvette forums and tout my Z.
However, if I feel the urge to start growing out the hair on the back of my head I might change my mind.
However, if I feel the urge to start growing out the hair on the back of my head I might change my mind.
Originally Posted by Strider619
and why not?
edit: let me just own you while I'm at it.
this is from wiki:
Now in its third generation, the MX5's first generation, the NA, sold over 400,000 units from 1989 to 1997 — with a 1.6 L (98 cu in) straight-4 engine to 1993, a 1.8 L (110 cu in) engine thereafter — recognizable by its pop-up headlights. The second generation (NB) was introduced in 1998 with a slight increase in engine power; it can be recognized by the fixed headlights, and the glass rear window. The third generation (NC) was introduced in 2005 with a 2.0 L (120 cu in) engine.
The MX-5 was conceived as an elemental small roadster — with light weight and minimal mechanical complexity limited only by legal and safety requirements; technologically modern, but a philosophically direct descendant of the small British roadsters of the 1960s such as the Triumph Spitfire, Austin-Healey Sprite, MG Midget and Lotus Elan.
The MX-5 was designed with a traditional front-engine, rear-wheel drive layout and four-wheel independent double wishbone suspension. It has a longitudinally-mounted four cylinder engine coupled to a manual transmission (5 speed for NA, 5 or 6 speed in NB & NC); an automatic transmission is a cost option.
The body is a conventional, but light, unibody or monocoque construction, with a (detachable) rear subframe. The MX-5 also incorporates a truss marketed as the Powerplant Frame (PPF) which connects the engine to the differential, minimizing flex and contributing to responsive handling. Many MX-5s feature limited slip differentials and anti-lock braking system. Traction control is an option available on NC models. The earlier cars weighed in at just over a ton, with engine power output usually 120 bhp (89 kW). The later cars were heavier, with higher power engines.
With an approximate 50:50 front/rear weight balance, the car has nearly neutral handling. Inducing oversteer is easy and very controllable, thus making the MX-5 a popular choice for amateur and stock racing, including, in the USA, the Sports Car Club of America's Solo2 autocross and Spec Miata race series.
Beginning with the third generation, Mazda consolidated worldwide marketing using the MX-5 name, though enthusiasts in the USA still refer to it as Miata, a name that means "reward" in Old High German.[2]
The MX-5 has won over 150 awards in its history,[citation needed] including making Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list seven times; Wheels Magazine 's Car of the Year for 1989 and 2005; Sports Car International's "best sports car of the 1990s" and "ten best sports cars of all time"; 2005-2006 Car of the Year Japan; and 2005 Australian Car of the Year.
sorry for the hijack.
edit: let me just own you while I'm at it.
this is from wiki:
Now in its third generation, the MX5's first generation, the NA, sold over 400,000 units from 1989 to 1997 — with a 1.6 L (98 cu in) straight-4 engine to 1993, a 1.8 L (110 cu in) engine thereafter — recognizable by its pop-up headlights. The second generation (NB) was introduced in 1998 with a slight increase in engine power; it can be recognized by the fixed headlights, and the glass rear window. The third generation (NC) was introduced in 2005 with a 2.0 L (120 cu in) engine.
The MX-5 was conceived as an elemental small roadster — with light weight and minimal mechanical complexity limited only by legal and safety requirements; technologically modern, but a philosophically direct descendant of the small British roadsters of the 1960s such as the Triumph Spitfire, Austin-Healey Sprite, MG Midget and Lotus Elan.
The MX-5 was designed with a traditional front-engine, rear-wheel drive layout and four-wheel independent double wishbone suspension. It has a longitudinally-mounted four cylinder engine coupled to a manual transmission (5 speed for NA, 5 or 6 speed in NB & NC); an automatic transmission is a cost option.
The body is a conventional, but light, unibody or monocoque construction, with a (detachable) rear subframe. The MX-5 also incorporates a truss marketed as the Powerplant Frame (PPF) which connects the engine to the differential, minimizing flex and contributing to responsive handling. Many MX-5s feature limited slip differentials and anti-lock braking system. Traction control is an option available on NC models. The earlier cars weighed in at just over a ton, with engine power output usually 120 bhp (89 kW). The later cars were heavier, with higher power engines.
With an approximate 50:50 front/rear weight balance, the car has nearly neutral handling. Inducing oversteer is easy and very controllable, thus making the MX-5 a popular choice for amateur and stock racing, including, in the USA, the Sports Car Club of America's Solo2 autocross and Spec Miata race series.
Beginning with the third generation, Mazda consolidated worldwide marketing using the MX-5 name, though enthusiasts in the USA still refer to it as Miata, a name that means "reward" in Old High German.[2]
The MX-5 has won over 150 awards in its history,[citation needed] including making Car and Driver magazine's annual Ten Best list seven times; Wheels Magazine 's Car of the Year for 1989 and 2005; Sports Car International's "best sports car of the 1990s" and "ten best sports cars of all time"; 2005-2006 Car of the Year Japan; and 2005 Australian Car of the Year.
sorry for the hijack.
way to suck it to me, what was i thinking
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Originally Posted by SargentZ
+1 what's with all the corvette lovers on this site lately?
Isn't there a corvette site they can visit to compare mullets and gold chains?
This site is for "Z" enthusiasts! at least I thought.
Isn't there a corvette site they can visit to compare mullets and gold chains?
This site is for "Z" enthusiasts! at least I thought.
I have a mullet and gold chains, but I love it here.
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Originally Posted by TerraNova3
Well, it did say "popular" And as far as I know, more people own vettes and stangs than 350zees.
But that challenger??? shouldnt be there, not very "popular" at the moment.
But that challenger??? shouldnt be there, not very "popular" at the moment.
Originally Posted by jeffnot
Unfortunetely, domestic peices of junk like the Mustang and Corvette were ahead of the Z, but that's got to be due to the fact that there are more stupid people than educated people in this country. Yeah, I'm mean, but you know it's true!
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...under-way.html
However, prior to my G35, I have owned both a Chevy Corsica and a Chevy Malibu, and neither one ever had to go back to the dealership for a warranty repair... (The Malibu had to when I crashed it, but not because of a warranty repair).
In contrast to my Chevy's, my G35 went back to the dealer under warranty three times during it's first 20k miles. Once because the driver side window stopped working, and once because the passenger side window stopped working. The third time was because it was having trouble starting. The dealer could not find the problem, but it eventually went away while it was at the dealership (the dealer thought it was bad gas or something like that, but wasn't sure).
So, just because it's Japanese, doesn't make it better. Also, take a look at the latest JD Powers dependability study:
The top ten automakers:
1. Buick/ Lexus (tie)
3. Cadillac
4. Mercury
5. Honda
6. Toyota
7. BMW
8. Lincoln
9. Subaru
10. Oldsmobile (remember Olds still had 2004 models)
http://www.thetorquereport.com/2007/...xus_in_jd.html
Nissan/Infinity didn't even make the top ten, and half of the top ten cars for dependability are American. Moreover, Buick tied Lexus for the top spot, with Cadillac close on their heels.
I bought my wife a 2008 Cadillac CTS a few months ago. It is the finest automobile we have ever owned. When shopping, I compared it to both the BMW 3 series and the BMW 5 series. In my opinion, there was no comparison. My wife and I both agreed the CTS is nicer than both of those vehicles, but costs less than an equivalenty equipped 3 series.
Finally, the CTS-V just set the world record for the fastest production sedan around the Nurburgring, and the Corvette ZR1 just set the world record for any production vehicle aroudn the Nurburgring.
Even though My G35 is almost done and I'm excited as h**ll about it, if anybody wants to trade me for a new 2009 Corvette ZR1 or a new 2009 Cadillac CTS-V, I'll gladly take the trade...
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Originally Posted by ttg35fort
I love my 2003 G35, and I am dropping some serious mods into it right now. Here is my link:
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...under-way.html
However, prior to my G35, I have owned both a Chevy Corsica and a Chevy Malibu, and neither one ever had to go back to the dealership for a warranty repair... (The Malibu had to when I crashed it, but not because of a warranty repair).
In contrast to my Chevy's, my G35 went back to the dealer under warranty three times during it's first 20k miles. Once because the driver side window stopped working, and once because the passenger side window stopped working. The third time was because it was having trouble starting. The dealer could not find the problem, but it eventually went away while it was at the dealership (the dealer thought it was bad gas or something like that, but wasn't sure).
So, just because it's Japanese, doesn't make it better. Also, take a look at the latest JD Powers dependability study:
The top ten automakers:
1. Buick/ Lexus (tie)
3. Cadillac
4. Mercury
5. Honda
6. Toyota
7. BMW
8. Lincoln
9. Subaru
10. Oldsmobile (remember Olds still had 2004 models)
http://www.thetorquereport.com/2007/...xus_in_jd.html
Nissan/Infinity didn't even make the top ten, and half of the top ten cars for dependability are American. Moreover, Buick tied Lexus for the top spot, with Cadillac close on their heels.
I bought my wife a 2008 Cadillac CTS a few months ago. It is the finest automobile we have ever owned. When shopping, I compared it to both the BMW 3 series and the BMW 5 series. In my opinion, there was no comparison. My wife and I both agreed the CTS is nicer than both of those vehicles, but costs less than an equivalenty equipped 3 series.
Finally, the CTS-V just set the world record for the fastest production sedan around the Nurburgring, and the Corvette ZR1 just set the world record for any production vehicle aroudn the Nurburgring.
Even though My G35 is almost done and I'm excited as h**ll about it, if anybody wants to trade me for a new 2009 Corvette ZR1 or a new 2009 Cadillac CTS-V, I'll gladly take the trade...
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...under-way.html
However, prior to my G35, I have owned both a Chevy Corsica and a Chevy Malibu, and neither one ever had to go back to the dealership for a warranty repair... (The Malibu had to when I crashed it, but not because of a warranty repair).
In contrast to my Chevy's, my G35 went back to the dealer under warranty three times during it's first 20k miles. Once because the driver side window stopped working, and once because the passenger side window stopped working. The third time was because it was having trouble starting. The dealer could not find the problem, but it eventually went away while it was at the dealership (the dealer thought it was bad gas or something like that, but wasn't sure).
So, just because it's Japanese, doesn't make it better. Also, take a look at the latest JD Powers dependability study:
The top ten automakers:
1. Buick/ Lexus (tie)
3. Cadillac
4. Mercury
5. Honda
6. Toyota
7. BMW
8. Lincoln
9. Subaru
10. Oldsmobile (remember Olds still had 2004 models)
http://www.thetorquereport.com/2007/...xus_in_jd.html
Nissan/Infinity didn't even make the top ten, and half of the top ten cars for dependability are American. Moreover, Buick tied Lexus for the top spot, with Cadillac close on their heels.
I bought my wife a 2008 Cadillac CTS a few months ago. It is the finest automobile we have ever owned. When shopping, I compared it to both the BMW 3 series and the BMW 5 series. In my opinion, there was no comparison. My wife and I both agreed the CTS is nicer than both of those vehicles, but costs less than an equivalenty equipped 3 series.
Finally, the CTS-V just set the world record for the fastest production sedan around the Nurburgring, and the Corvette ZR1 just set the world record for any production vehicle aroudn the Nurburgring.
Even though My G35 is almost done and I'm excited as h**ll about it, if anybody wants to trade me for a new 2009 Corvette ZR1 or a new 2009 Cadillac CTS-V, I'll gladly take the trade...
..if I had an american made (not ment to offend anyone) I wouldn't be looking for problems, because that will depress the crap out of me. ..and if you continue to read the article, TOYOTA dominated the list of most dependable vehicles, it won on most of the catagories. The way they based it was on problems, and those you mentioned just had the least, but.. OVERALL, Toyota won the list. Look it up. Please keep in mind that Toyota makes include: Lexus and Scion.
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Originally Posted by Ztalker
obviously I FAILED.....
to read the article before making my post...
to read the article before making my post...
The list of the 10 most popular sports cars on MSN Autos is based on visits to the site's vehicle research pages during months April through June, 2008:
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What doesn't help is that everyone has their IDEAS of what a true sports car is. Honestly, it's the American in us trying to "categorize" everything. ..it's in our nature.
Miata's - Fail.
Evo's - Quick.
RX8's - Ugly.
..and so on. But, we'll all just have to agree to disagree.
Miata's - Fail.
Evo's - Quick.
RX8's - Ugly.
..and so on. But, we'll all just have to agree to disagree.
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its just a list about what people were researching. It does not claim to be a list involving comparison of any kind whatsoever; or a ranking system.
it is compiled data, statistical analysis, nothing more or less.
it is compiled data, statistical analysis, nothing more or less.
Last edited by robertinmesa; Aug 6, 2008 at 09:29 PM.
Originally Posted by jeffnot
C'mon, let's be fair; it's not just guys with mullets- don't forget old men!
Les
Originally Posted by daryl.blas
Seriously hoping your not speaking of me. Because, in no way did I defend the Z. I didn't even defend it's make.
Originally Posted by jeffnot
Um, my Z is a 2003 with over 60k miles on it and their aren't any noises. But I haven't modded it out either. My Toyota before that didn't make any noises either. And I know the Z isn't perfect, but it's domestic competition pales in comparison- I would hope you feel the same way, if you own a Z that is. And "my definition" referred not only to squeeks but resale value and service visits- so, no; MY Z is not a piece of junk.
Why are you on this forum if you don't favor the Z? And I can back up anything I say- I'm not just biased for no reason.
Why are you on this forum if you don't favor the Z? And I can back up anything I say- I'm not just biased for no reason.
Originally Posted by SargentZ
If I wanted to slobber on another vehicle that wasn't a Z I'd visit 'said vehicles' enthusiast site. I certainly don't go to corvette forums and tout my Z.
However, if I feel the urge to start growing out the hair on the back of my head I might change my mind.
However, if I feel the urge to start growing out the hair on the back of my head I might change my mind.
