Here is a link to an MSN article about the 10 hottest sports cars calculated by searches on their auto site.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/lista...&topart=sports

Unfortunetely, domestic peices of junk like the Mustang and Corvette were ahead of the Z, but that's got to be due to the fact that there are more stupid people than educated people in this country. Yeah, I'm mean, but you know it's true!

Oh, and did I mention that the Miata, Eclipse and a Saturn were all ahead of a Lamborghini on the list as well? A Miata?!? Seriously- is that really considered a sports car?!? Forget it- don't even bother looking at this list- it was obviously organized by someone who drives a moped. "Oh no he di-in!"

 

yeh i saw this last night and i was like "WTF is this BS"

 

The coasts need to secede.

 

rofl miata and saturn, but eclipse deserves to be up there - considered how much it's worth out the door it's a pretty awesome deal, it is kidna messed up that mustange and vette are on top...

 

Of course they are going to put domestics at the top of the list.We all know whats really up though.

 

I don't know about all that. I've always liked the looks of the Eclipse over the years but I would never consider one due to their reliability issues and resale value. And honestly, can you really say that you think the Eclipse deserves to be in the same class as the 350Z? True sports cars don't even have backseats- at least that's my opinion.

 

Well, it did say "popular" And as far as I know, more people own vettes and stangs than 350zees.

But that challenger??? shouldnt be there, not very "popular" at the moment.

 

So i guess the Z being in 5th means nothing then. The reputation of the list has been tainted!

 

lmao, did none of you read the title to this?
it clearly states the sports cars that people have researched the most. Researching means cars that most people are able to afford. This is why you see miatas, mustangs, and saturns higher up, they are more affordable and more people will research it.

 

"domestic peices of junk like the Mustang and Corvette"

What the hell are you talking about? The C6 will out perform the Z in any and all categories.

 

Well, the only reason that I mentioned the article is because the Z is in it. Other than that, the article is just fluff and self-advertising.

As for your reply, I understand what you mean but "researching" does not mean "affordability". Case in point: I have been researching the Lamborghini Gallardo for months, but it is still out of my price range (for now...). And, I believe that they should re-word the title; to me, true sports cars do not have a back seat and are not available with a 4 cylinder engine, and plus (and this is a biggie), they should be FAST!!! Now, I feel that it would be acceptable to call a Miata (along with some of the others on the list) "sporty", but not label it as a sports car.

 

it's all a matter of opinion bud, I mean look at the 911 turbo - it has back seats and it's way more a sports car then the Z - also for reliability issues - i know all mitus are very reliable and long lasting cars - that why my wifes 06 eclipse has had 0 issues so far and my 06 z had 2 services under warranty.

 

Yeah, I am aware of their capabilities, but when I say "junk", I am referring to their quality. The squeeks and shaking that I have experienced in any Vette over a couple of years old is just heartbreaking. I'm not going to get into it again, but also the fact that a 5 year old Z and 5 year old Vette costing about the same used when the Vette started out about $20k higher is a factor as well. But hey, they look nice and are fast.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2003/che...1/options.html

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2003/nis...9/options.html

 

I know I'm a snob about car brands- you don't need to reply about that. Just know that it's due to being in the auto industry for 4 years and learning quite a bit about the differences between Japanese makes and all the rest. See for yourself- hang out in a Chevy or Dodge service area and then a Honda or Toyota service area.

And by the way, just because Ford says "Ford quality is now equal to Honda and Toyota quality" in their commercials, doesn't make it true. And what exactly does that mean? Souds like they are admitting that all of their vehicles in the past were of lesser quality- I'd be pissed if I was a Ford owner!!!

 

oh of course the Rustang is #1, who wouldn't wan't one of those, gay and the murcielago is last WTF

 

If your Z doesn't squeak and shake a little then you have the only one. There are many threads about Z quality issues on this board, as with any car, sports or not.

I guess by your own definition a Z is a piece of junk?

 

Um, my Z is a 2003 with over 60k miles on it and their aren't any noises. But I haven't modded it out either. My Toyota before that didn't make any noises either. And I know the Z isn't perfect, but it's domestic competition pales in comparison- I would hope you feel the same way, if you own a Z that is. And "my definition" referred not only to squeeks but resale value and service visits- so, no; MY Z is not a piece of junk.

Why are you on this forum if you don't favor the Z? And I can back up anything I say- I'm not just biased for no reason.

 

Resale value, huh? Zs don't have any. Which is why every kid with a McJob has one now.

Your resale value comparison to a previous generation C5 to a current generation 350Z is flawed to say the least “oh and by my research, there was a 9k difference in price, not 20k.” Right now, there is a 6k difference, so I fail to see your point. Wait till the 370Z comes out and watch the 350Z plummet in value.

Any 16 year old with an allowance and a driver’s license will be able to get one. You will be looking at a $12k car in another couple of years. Can you find a $12k Corvette in good shape of any year?

I do in deed like my car very much, I just find it immature to start blasting other people’s cars, especially when that car is not “junk.” You sound just like the boys on the Honda forums.

Service visits? Ask the guys on here who have lost engines to the infamous oil consumption issues. Not just once, but several times. Look for tranny problems in the early models.

The bottom line is that there is always a better car, no matter what you have. To randomly spew out that someones car is a piece of junk is just immature.

 

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I would never call a Corvette a junk, but I would say they are not really well-built. Just this past weekend, there were 2 Vettes at the service dept. when I was doing some up-close inspection, I noticed that the front bumper is not align with the hood, lol. If you look afar, you wouldn't see it, but up to the nose, you would. Then I went to another which was a $60,000+convertible, it had the same problem. I know this has been a problem for Vettes because of ownership, but in the grand scheme of things, they are a straight line beast and the current model is much more comfortable to drive/ride. I was so close on getting one that they put it on service port, but they wanted too much cash (around the cost of a Malibu)- I decide, not what they decide for me. If I put my Z for trade because of the equity I have on the car, it was a done deal. Z rates pretty high in my book, very easy to drive slowly and speedily. Vettes are not a good built junk, but if you haven't driven it, junk is not the word.

 

Challenger should have been number 1. Mustangs are so boring anymore.