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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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I looked under the car this morning to see if i can find a loose wire and i did. There was a loose ground wire behind the muffler. Could this be my problem? I will post a picture in a few minutes.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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Here are some pictures. Not the best but i will try to get some better ones today.



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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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hey, wanted to ask on this cos it seemed somewhat appropriate and I'll be torn to pieces if I started a new Thread for this. I've done research and can't find a definitive answer.

Which year(s) Z's are having all the motor replacements?

Good Luck with your car blue
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by VandyZ
Sounds like ECU or BCM (body control module) or wiring issues. If its either of the first two, you are looking at a visit to your local nissan dealership. While you can buy the parts used/salvaged, there is some Consult-II work that can only be done at a dealer or someone with the Consult-II and ecu reprogramming cards. Good luck! CAN problems are a PITA. I would first check the connections with the BCM and the AC Amp box. The BCM is below the fuse panel under the drivers side kick plate. The AC Amp box (white) is under the radio/AC controls just infront of shifter.

If i had a problem with the ECU, wouldnt i have problems like starting the car? The car drives fine, it just lags performance(misfiring). I do know that the car does need to have the o2 sensors in the back replaced and there is a ground short.

Also, i will check the BCM and AC amp connections today and see what i get.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FreeChilly
hey, wanted to ask on this cos it seemed somewhat appropriate and I'll be torn to pieces if I started a new Thread for this. I've done research and can't find a definitive answer.

Which year(s) Z's are having all the motor replacements?

Good Luck with your car blue
Mine is a 2003.

Thanks
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by blue20051
Here are some pictures. Not the best but i will try to get some better ones today.




That ground wire goes on one of the bolts that holds the muffler to the midpipe. No it alone isn't causing your issues...its just one of many grounds. But I'd reconnect it all the same.

From the factory one of the bolts has 2 nuts on it, the first one holds the muffler flange to the midpipe flange, the 2nd one holds that ground on.

If you need pics lemme know via PM, as I forget where I post....quite often.
I'll be under mine this evening if you need a pic.

Actually, its the flange thats in your pics.
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by blue20051
If i had a problem with the ECU, wouldnt i have problems like starting the car? The car drives fine, it just lags performance(misfiring). I do know that the car does need to have the o2 sensors in the back replaced and there is a ground short.

Also, i will check the BCM and AC amp connections today and see what i get.
Well the CAN system is just a network that the BCM and ECU use to talk to each other and the components they control. It mainly controls things that have nothing to do with drivability (locks, windows, alarm, lights, wipers, AC, TPS) but it does also interface with the TCS, ABS, VDC. Those things can affect your drivability. CAN lines touch all of the following modules: ECM, TCM, Data Link connector, AC Amp, BCM, ABS actuator, and IPDM

If you pm me your email I can send you the section of the FSM that will walk you through some manual checks you can perform without the use of the consult-ii (specifically the ground and power checks).
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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It sounds like your throttle body is bad. They are known to be defective.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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also check your MAF sensor.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by blue20051
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I just had a thought. Pop the hood. Check for wires that aren't connected...given that your car was (most likely) modified, and then quickly put back to stock to sell, there's a good chance something isn't connected. Also check that the 02 sensors are plugged in. Start simple, work your way complex.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by WTX350Z
email w/ link to pics sent last night.



I just had a thought. Pop the hood. Check for wires that aren't connected...given that your car was (most likely) modified, and then quickly put back to stock to sell, there's a good chance something isn't connected. Also check that the 02 sensors are plugged in. Start simple, work your way complex.
I did find a ground wire that wasnt connected and reconnected it yesterday. Since then the car drives fine but i still need to replace the back two sensors. Nissan said they will have the sensors in by monday. Once the sensors are installed i hope the car will be back to normal.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by WTX350Z
email w/ link to pics sent last night.



I just had a thought. Pop the hood. Check for wires that aren't connected...given that your car was (most likely) modified, and then quickly put back to stock to sell, there's a good chance something isn't connected. Also check that the 02 sensors are plugged in. Start simple, work your way complex.
PM sent WTX350z
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Ill check around the hood also to see if i can fine other wires that may be loose. Thanks for you help everyone
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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When my throttle body went bad it threw different codes: P1121 and P0327

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It sounds like your throttle body is bad. They are known to be defective.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Brickyard Rat
This thread is exhibit 1 to why it is important to have a used car checked out by mechanic before writing a check.
hindsight is 20/20. i agree with you 100%, but i dont think that statement is necessary here. OP admits he made a mistake.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by blue20051
To make story short. i bought the car with the SES light on. It ran fine for about 2-3 weeks and all of a sudden it started to drive funny. I went to autozone this past saturday to see what codes my car was throwing. Heres what i got. SIX CODES!! P1276 P1168 P1148 P0138 P1286 P0158, WOW That is alot for me. The car will drive fine for about five minutes and then it will start to lag(bog or buck). In other words, lose performance. Ive looked up the codes and most of them i believe are senor problems or a short circuit somewhere.

I guess in a way the car didnt go bad, it probally had problems before but it got worst with me as being its new owner. I am thinking about selling the car and stay a way for a while. BUT i really love the Z. I want to fix it up but am worried that there may be newer problems in the future. If you guys were in my shoes, what would you do?

Thanks for any help/suggestions
that's what you get for being a Cowboy's fan.

seriously though, CEL = dealer under warranty.

jim
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