Somebody in another forum posted the following post. It concern a zerox copy they have of a new TSB (NTB03-006A) concerning the tire feathering problem. Has anybody heard about this?

<<"This TSB amends NTB03-006. This version contains updated VIN and Applied Date applications. Please discard all paper copies of the earlier bulletin."

Applied VINS...
Applied Date: Vehicles built before May 27, 2003

It's 5 pages and the copy I have includes a 6th page with the alignment specs. The specs appear to be printed from the ESM. ">>

This is where the post is from:
http://www.zcar.com/forums/read.php?...01928&t=101928

In addition I sent this e-mail to Nissan as a prospective buyer:
"I am thinking of buying a 350Z. I have only one concern holding me back. I have read on many web sites including your own Z website of a problem with tire cupping or tire feathering on the front tires that produces noise when braking hits below 30 mph. Is this problem still happeining on the 2004's.? If I should experience this problem after buying my car what reaction can I expect from Nissan? Your response will determine whether I will buy this car."

This is what they wrote in response:
"Thank you for your interest in the most innovative vehicle we have
In regards to the question listed in your email, Not all 2003 350Z's aren't exhibiting a tire feathering concern. And also the case is reviewed on a case by case basis if and when the problem arises.

File number 4294228 has been created to document this concern. If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to call 1-800-647-7261, Nissan Consumer Affairs and reference your file number."

 

When dropping off my Z for the Bose amp replacement, I mentioned that I was getting a lot of noise when braking below 30 mph. The service writer called out to the head tech who was walking by. He said he would look at it. When I picked up the car, both the service writer and head tech told me to bring the car in and they would send out the front wheels to get the tires rotated and then check out the alignment. This is the same place that told me 6 weeks earlier that there is nothing they can do, the way the car is designed gives feathering. I think Nissan has done some retraining of its service folks.

 

All I can recommend is have the dealer dial in just a bit of toe-in on the fronts. So when you're driving at speed, the front will toe-out to zero (0) toe.

Michael.

 

Curious when Nissan mechanics do an alignment is it done with weight (simulating driver) in the car? I know BMW's are done this way as are race cars. BMW dealers use sand bags. Race cars have someone sit in the car.

 

Hi..Is there any way i can get a copy of the newNTB03-006 tsb for tire featuring so i can shove it in my delears face! or know wherei can get a copy of one..i would great ly appreciate it!

MF

 

sorry for the ignorance... but what is "tire feathering" and how can i tell if my tires are feathering?

 

you'll notice a lot of road noise (especially at highway speeds and under braking at lower speeds)
the tire feathering refers to the unusual cupping (or feathering) that the inside of your front tires will do. you can feel it (if it's farther along in the stage) by running your hand along the inside of your tire. if the thickness of the tread is noticably lower at the beggining of each section than it is at the end of the same section, then you've got the issue. can't really think of a better way to describe it.

 

yes i am experiencing the issue too and need to show it to my dealer as well.

 

I've previously gotten the TSBs from the NHTSA website and the website lists this TSB as existing, but the files are conspicuously absent. ALL of them are absent when I previously retrieved them from this site before. This is supposed to be public info...

 

I know that "mandatory recalls" are public information and "voluntary recalls" are made public by the manufacturer.

TSB's (technical service bulletins) are not "officially" public information. They are simply internal bulletins supposedly to help Nissan service departments diagnose and repair problems found to be common to a large portion of a particular model vehicle. Of course TSB's tend to leak to the public very quickly these days. The Nissan web site has an area where you can purchase access to TSB's at a steep price.

 

This from what I understand is the THIRD revision to the 350z's Alighnment specs as per the New (updated) feathering tsb that came out 3 weeks ago..Can anyone confrim the below which I'm posting?????????

Left Front
Min Nominal Max
Camber -1.33 -0.58 -0.80
Caster 7.42 8.17 8.20
Toe 0.00 0.02 0.02

Right Front
Min Nominal Max
Camber -1.33 -0.58 0.17
Caster 7.42 8.17 8.92
Toe 0.00 0.02 0.04

Total Front
Min Nominal Max
Cros Camber -0.75 0.00 0.75
Cross Caster -0.75 0.00 0.75
Total Toe 0.00 0.04 0.08
Set Back

Left Rear
Min Nominal Max
Camber -2.08 -1.58 -1.08
Toe 0.02 0.04 0.05

Right Rear
Min Nominal Max
Camber -2.08 -1.58 -1.08
Toe 0.02 0.04 0.05

Total Rear
Min Nominal Max
Total Toe 0.4 0.8 0.11

 

Can someone confirm these settings?

 

Try the following link:
Nissan TSB

Rgd,
Mickey

 

The point is that they were ALL on the NHTSA website and I even retrieved them from there but now they are conspicuously missing; ALL of them.

 

I've called NNA regarding this issue, and they said that since my car is behond the 12k mile "adjustment" period, I'll have to pay for an alignment job. IS THIS F*CKING FOR REAL????

 

we have something posted here

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=36868

VQ does a great job with this site. Its not the newest one buts it should work

 

BullishZ

I got an allignment at 14,000 called NNA and complained... Told them is this how they treat customers and I was no ordinary customer... the knew I was a well educated customer on the issue...

I just bought a life time alignment pass from firestone for $100, im going to go to them every 4 months... and when I get my rims put on.

 

The TSB is even announced in autoweek this week... just saw the article, says that their car was having problems so they decided to check out my350z.com and saw the 1000+ posts on this issue.... they then said there is a TSB out telling the dealerships to fix it, etc....

 

that link:

https://my350z.com/forum/showthr...&threadid=36868

Is for teh old TSB..there is now a updated version with the latest allighnment specs and new vin #'s affected....I think it's teh specs i posted but i'm trying to confirm..anyone out there that works for a nissan dealer? can you shed some light/help on this one!..Thanks!@

 

Try this link...


http://members.***.net/mikewazowski/NTB03-006.pdf

Cheers Amy -