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07-22-2010, 03:28 PM
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Around 2 weeks ago, I saw DTM's thread with really good pricing. In the thread... pricing was posted. $325 for Chargespeed rear w/ cf insert, and $140 for amuse front (the two pieces I was interested in). I emailed DTM that night. The next morning, when he replied to it, I notice the thread has been edited at 3am, and the prices are no longer in the thread.
The replies on my email go to the top, so read from the bottom to the top, or it can be kind of confusing.
This convo takes place between Robert and I:
I PM Strafe my quote, to see if they can do a little better they PM me a very good quote back, and I decided to see if Robert can match it. I figured I'd just do parts, paint and prep through them and be done with it.
Well I found out Robert doesn't work there anymore. I email Avery and this is the convo I have with him:
I then forward my emails FROM ROBERT to Avery and he gives me this BS:
Notice how Robert didn't give me a timeframe in his emails, I doubt Avery even talked to him. What difference does 1 week make in the pricing anyways? VIS hasn't raised their prices.
It sounds like Robert was the only good person over at DTM, and now he's gone. I'll just stick with Strafe, because what I experienced is ridiculous.
The replies on my email go to the top, so read from the bottom to the top, or it can be kind of confusing.
This convo takes place between Robert and I:
I PM Strafe my quote, to see if they can do a little better they PM me a very good quote back, and I decided to see if Robert can match it. I figured I'd just do parts, paint and prep through them and be done with it.
Well I found out Robert doesn't work there anymore. I email Avery and this is the convo I have with him:
I then forward my emails FROM ROBERT to Avery and he gives me this BS:
Notice how Robert didn't give me a timeframe in his emails, I doubt Avery even talked to him. What difference does 1 week make in the pricing anyways? VIS hasn't raised their prices.
It sounds like Robert was the only good person over at DTM, and now he's gone. I'll just stick with Strafe, because what I experienced is ridiculous.
07-22-2010, 04:33 PM
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Stinks you went through that man I know when I purchased my stuff it took time to get it but when I did I was a happy man now im going back up to paint all my pieces but gl with strafe
07-22-2010, 04:38 PM
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that sucks too.. i am still updating a thread about how DTM did me well.. and Robert was the guy spearheading the good work.. yeAh, ill have to add that to my thread, buy at your own risk if hes gone.. he was super young too strangely enuff.. jut turned 21.
07-22-2010, 06:27 PM
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If anyone has a problem, you are more than willing to contact me at (818) 731-2298, I may be new here but I'm more than willing to help solve past issues =)
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"I'm sorry I can't offer you those prices, there's really nothing I can do, I sell for what management says."
That's what your last message says... so I am unsure how you are going to make the situation right?
I have my emails from the person that originally used the DTMAUTO account on here... and apparently those prices are 2 days too old even though there was no time frame given to me by him.
As I told you, I am more than willing to place an order w/ paint + fit even... but the prices don't even match your own company's emails. Strafe did give me better pricing than you, so I can just order from them, and get it painted locally and come out ahead.
Feel free to PM me if you have a resolution
That's what your last message says... so I am unsure how you are going to make the situation right?
I have my emails from the person that originally used the DTMAUTO account on here... and apparently those prices are 2 days too old even though there was no time frame given to me by him.
As I told you, I am more than willing to place an order w/ paint + fit even... but the prices don't even match your own company's emails. Strafe did give me better pricing than you, so I can just order from them, and get it painted locally and come out ahead.
Feel free to PM me if you have a resolution
07-22-2010, 06:59 PM
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I do not appreciate this slander. First off, I took over this forum officially from Robert YESTERDAY. Therefore, I don't know what quotes you have been given, I don't know what specials their were, when I need help, I ask Robert for advice on how to deal with issues and I usually go off what he says since he has been on here for a while.
1.If you don't believe I talked to Robert, feel free to call him, if you like I will pm you his number and you can ask him yourself.
2.Shady threads? Name people we have screwed over? That kind of slander is not appreciated, we would not have been in this industry this long if we were doing shady deals.
3. There are no advertised prices anymore per a agreement with our suppliers.
4. I guarantee that Strafe will no longer match that price, we are business partners now.
I trust that we can act mature about this, if you want to bash someone who has been on this forum for a FULL day if that, fine, but I see no point in it.
I will be pming you soon Jason, but you should just call me =)
1.If you don't believe I talked to Robert, feel free to call him, if you like I will pm you his number and you can ask him yourself.
2.Shady threads? Name people we have screwed over? That kind of slander is not appreciated, we would not have been in this industry this long if we were doing shady deals.
3. There are no advertised prices anymore per a agreement with our suppliers.
4. I guarantee that Strafe will no longer match that price, we are business partners now.
I trust that we can act mature about this, if you want to bash someone who has been on this forum for a FULL day if that, fine, but I see no point in it.
I will be pming you soon Jason, but you should just call me =)
07-22-2010, 07:10 PM
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There's really no slander? Just showing people what happened to me. They can decide for themselves what happened.
I don't have to order through you, or strafe if you quote prices, then change them 2 days later (I don't know if they will give me the price they quoted me or not). I can just go directly to VIS.
I forwarded you the emails Robert sent me to help you realize my frustration, and you just added to it... There's really nothing to debate considering everything has been sent to you prior to this thread ever being created.
Robert agreed to give me a price he was advertising at the time of my email, you can't give match the price your co-worker did even though I forwarded you our exact conversation. So you can't say you don't know what quotes I've been given since they were in your inbox before you typed that.
Enough said, good luck in the future Avery
I don't have to order through you, or strafe if you quote prices, then change them 2 days later (I don't know if they will give me the price they quoted me or not). I can just go directly to VIS.
I forwarded you the emails Robert sent me to help you realize my frustration, and you just added to it... There's really nothing to debate considering everything has been sent to you prior to this thread ever being created.
Robert agreed to give me a price he was advertising at the time of my email, you can't give match the price your co-worker did even though I forwarded you our exact conversation. So you can't say you don't know what quotes I've been given since they were in your inbox before you typed that.
Enough said, good luck in the future Avery
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I do not appreciate this slander. First off, I took over this forum officially from Robert YESTERDAY. Therefore, I don't know what quotes you have been given, I don't know what specials their were, when I need help, I ask Robert for advice on how to deal with issues and I usually go off what he says since he has been on here for a while.
1.If you don't believe I talked to Robert, feel free to call him, if you like I will pm you his number and you can ask him yourself.
2.Shady threads? Name people we have screwed over? That kind of slander is not appreciated, we would not have been in this industry this long if we were doing shady deals.
3. There are no advertised prices anymore per a agreement with our suppliers.
4. I guarantee that Strafe will no longer match that price, we are business partners now.
I trust that we can act mature about this, if you want to bash someone who has been on this forum for a FULL day if that, fine, but I see no point in it.
I will be pming you soon Jason, but you should just call me =)
1.If you don't believe I talked to Robert, feel free to call him, if you like I will pm you his number and you can ask him yourself.
2.Shady threads? Name people we have screwed over? That kind of slander is not appreciated, we would not have been in this industry this long if we were doing shady deals.
3. There are no advertised prices anymore per a agreement with our suppliers.
4. I guarantee that Strafe will no longer match that price, we are business partners now.
I trust that we can act mature about this, if you want to bash someone who has been on this forum for a FULL day if that, fine, but I see no point in it.
I will be pming you soon Jason, but you should just call me =)
. If you don't appreciate threads that make you look bad, then why not stop giving people wrong price quotes? Word of mouth spreads fast
07-22-2010, 07:18 PM
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False quotes? If you have had a problem in the past don't sit here and blame it on me. Talk to whomever you think wronged you. Like I said, I GOT ON THIS FORUM YESTERDAY. If you have beef with me personally, fine, talk it out with me, I posted my number, I'd be more than happy to chat. If I had nothing to do with it I don't see how blaming me helps.
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I gotta say though, DTM does EXCELLENT quality work. I've seen their work on a few cars and was shocked at how well they do bodywork. And I really don't even mind paying a little more for bodywork as long as the work is done right. But giving a customer one quote and then changing the price when it comes time to buy is just shady to me. 
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False quotes? If you have had a problem in the past don't sit here and blame it on me. Talk to whomever you think wronged you. Like I said, I GOT ON THIS FORUM YESTERDAY. If you have beef with me personally, fine, talk it out with me, I posted my number, I'd be more than happy to chat. If I had nothing to do with it I don't see how blaming me helps.
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There's really no slander? Just showing people what happened to me. They can decide for themselves what happened.
I don't have to order through you, or strafe if you quote prices, then change them 2 days later (I don't know if they will give me the price they quoted me or not). I can just go directly to VIS.
I forwarded you the emails Robert sent me to help you realize my frustration, and you just added to it... There's really nothing to debate considering everything has been sent to you prior to this thread ever being created.
Robert agreed to give me a price he was advertising at the time of my email, you can't give match the price your co-worker did even though I forwarded you our exact conversation. So you can't say you don't know what quotes I've been given since they were in your inbox before you typed that.
Enough said, good luck in the future Avery
I don't have to order through you, or strafe if you quote prices, then change them 2 days later (I don't know if they will give me the price they quoted me or not). I can just go directly to VIS.
I forwarded you the emails Robert sent me to help you realize my frustration, and you just added to it... There's really nothing to debate considering everything has been sent to you prior to this thread ever being created.
Robert agreed to give me a price he was advertising at the time of my email, you can't give match the price your co-worker did even though I forwarded you our exact conversation. So you can't say you don't know what quotes I've been given since they were in your inbox before you typed that.
Enough said, good luck in the future Avery
07-22-2010, 07:23 PM
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Thanks Calin, anyways as I said numerous times before, I have had nothing to do with this forum before yesterday, if you would like help resolving a problem with us, I'm down, I'll do my best to help. I will try and get the issues resolved in a mature manner.
