Consumer Reports and Suspension problems
11-14-2003, 08:43 PM
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Consumer Reports and Suspension problems
If you have a Consumer Reports online account and you go and check their reliability report for the 03 350Z you will find that it gets excellent in almost every category except for a couple. One is body integrity (things like water seapage through seems and noise). The other is the category of suspension. Both of these got a raiting of better than average (those of you familiar with CR know it as the half red, half white circle). According to CR this means that 2% - 5% of respondents mentioned suspension as a problem. To get excellent you have to have less than 2% of respondents claim something as a problem. Overall they give the reliability of the 350Z a better than average raiting. None of the systems received lower than better than average.
11-14-2003, 11:19 PM
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I simply cannot understand why any sports car enthusiast gives a rats azz what CR has to say about the 350Z. CR compares refrigerators and vacuum cleaners. It is not a car magazine. Look at what Road & Track, Car & Driver, and AutoWeek have to say about the Z. The mindset at CR is that a car is an appliance. We know better. Throw away that rag and enjoy driving your Z.
11-14-2003, 11:40 PM
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Re: Consumer Reports?
Originally posted by Jim Jones
I simply cannot understand why any sports car enthusiast gives a rats azz what CR has to say about the 350Z. CR compares refrigerators and vacuum cleaners. It is not a car magazine. Look at what Road & Track, Car & Driver, and AutoWeek have to say about the Z. The mindset at CR is that a car is an appliance. We know better. Throw away that rag and enjoy driving your Z.
I simply cannot understand why any sports car enthusiast gives a rats azz what CR has to say about the 350Z. CR compares refrigerators and vacuum cleaners. It is not a car magazine. Look at what Road & Track, Car & Driver, and AutoWeek have to say about the Z. The mindset at CR is that a car is an appliance. We know better. Throw away that rag and enjoy driving your Z.
I cant imagine deciding on which car I drove by reading their report anymore than i could imagine deciding which CD to buy by reading a music review.
11-15-2003, 12:04 AM
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at least look at their reliability ratings
Well, despite them not liking the Z and all in the latest issue... if you saw the Behind Closed Doors w/Joan Lunden ep giving a behind the scenes look at Consumer Reports testing, you'd find they are pretty thorough.
However, if you ignore all their subjective reviews, I still look at them if for nothing else, their reliability reports. There are tons of tables in the annual April auto issue. It's based on surveys mailed out annually. I at least trust them to report the stats and I've found their marks to be usually on the mark. In many cases, where many people have had trouble w/a certain system on a particular car is where we've also had trouble.
No other car mags really do reliability reports and surveys and some of JD Power's figures to me are suspect but many of their figures correlate pretty closey w/CR's reliability findings.
However, if you ignore all their subjective reviews, I still look at them if for nothing else, their reliability reports. There are tons of tables in the annual April auto issue. It's based on surveys mailed out annually. I at least trust them to report the stats and I've found their marks to be usually on the mark. In many cases, where many people have had trouble w/a certain system on a particular car is where we've also had trouble.
No other car mags really do reliability reports and surveys and some of JD Power's figures to me are suspect but many of their figures correlate pretty closey w/CR's reliability findings.
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Re: Consumer Reports?
Originally posted by Jim Jones
I simply cannot understand why any sports car enthusiast gives a rats azz what CR has to say about the 350Z. CR compares refrigerators and vacuum cleaners. It is not a car magazine. Look at what Road & Track, Car & Driver, and AutoWeek have to say about the Z. The mindset at CR is that a car is an appliance. We know better. Throw away that rag and enjoy driving your Z.
I simply cannot understand why any sports car enthusiast gives a rats azz what CR has to say about the 350Z. CR compares refrigerators and vacuum cleaners. It is not a car magazine. Look at what Road & Track, Car & Driver, and AutoWeek have to say about the Z. The mindset at CR is that a car is an appliance. We know better. Throw away that rag and enjoy driving your Z.
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11-15-2003, 03:14 AM
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Re: at least look at their reliability ratings
Originally posted by cwerdna
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I still look at them if for nothing else, their reliability reports. There are tons of tables in the annual April auto issue. It's based on surveys mailed out annually. I at least trust them to report the stats and I've found their marks to be usually on the mark. In many cases, where many people have had trouble w/a certain system on a particular car is where we've also had trouble.
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I still look at them if for nothing else, their reliability reports. There are tons of tables in the annual April auto issue. It's based on surveys mailed out annually. I at least trust them to report the stats and I've found their marks to be usually on the mark. In many cases, where many people have had trouble w/a certain system on a particular car is where we've also had trouble.
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The point of my post was not to hail CR as the source of what car you should choose. It was about how they had 2% - 5% of their respondents who own 350Z mentioning suspension as a problem. I wonder if this number is indicative of how many Z owners are having feathering problems.
11-15-2003, 09:46 AM
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I wish you guys would give my butt more respect!! 
I'm a long time reader of CR. No doubt they screwed the goose on the Zzz review but the above comments on CR's reliability ratings is spot on. It would be foolish to ignor the ratings as part of a buy/don't buy decision.
I'm a long time reader of CR. No doubt they screwed the goose on the Zzz review but the above comments on CR's reliability ratings is spot on. It would be foolish to ignor the ratings as part of a buy/don't buy decision.
11-15-2003, 04:30 PM
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Re: J.D. Power
Originally posted by jedoublery
Consumer Report is hourseshiet.
If anything, look at J.D.Power for reliablility ratings.
Consumer Report is hourseshiet.
If anything, look at J.D.Power for reliablility ratings.
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ignore everything about their car reviews, except for the reliability ratings. from everything i've heard (and personally experienced) their reliability ratings are the most accurate available.
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