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Old 11-19-2007, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul350Z


"My daddy is paying $700 a month in car and insurance payments and I'm paying $100 and ONLY half the gas."

Kids.

When I was 16 my mom and dad gave me permission to get a J-O-B and start saving money as long as my grades didn't slip. I worked my behind off working two part time jobs and raised about $1200 to buy my first car later than year. That involved going to the seller, counting out the cash from my pocket, and driving off with the then 4 year old 1973 Plymouth Barracuda. Dad gave me permission to pay the delta on his car insurance premium which was $1000 a year even back then. He also let me park the car in front of his house and use the garage in the wintertime to affect repairs. I learned how to do my own maintenance and more importantly, the value of work, and responsibility. When I didn't have money for gas the car sat in the street and I rode my bike.

Responsibility and accountability are two lessons not taught today. Too many of today's parents are not raising citizens with values, not raising young men and women with honor, choosing to be friends with their kids rather than parents. I've seen more than anyone's fair share of failures as a Master Chief in the USN - kids too spoiled (too soiled!), too self-centered, too undisciplined, too use to having their own way to make it in the military.

Not all kids are that way but a large, and growing, percentage.
You see this pisses me off so much. Who cares if parents decide to buy their kids cars, pay for school whatever. Its their money. My parents helped me out a ton. In high school they bought me a car, car insuarnce, gas, they pretty much hooked me up financially so I could concentrate on school.I still worked in the summer but it was for spending money. In college my parents paid for tuition, books, room and board, food whatever. I always got good grades, I worked every summer. I am now two years out of college and a succeeding Architectural Engineer. I live on a very tight budget, I make a good living but I don't have a ton of money so I budget. My parents helping me out when I was young did not damage me for life, did not hold me back in learning responsibility or how to budget. IMO it is ignorant to think such.

The reason a 17 year old's parents should not but their kid a car has nothing to do with "learning responsibility". It has everything to do with learning how to drive in a weak, safe car.

I was 26 by the way when I got the Z this year. I have been saving for it. First thing I bought was my town home. Then a car. I am suprised how financially independant I am now since my parents ruined me for life for helping me out in high school and college. (Sense the sarcasim?)

Oh and if your parents did not have the means and you did have to work your **** off I can admire the extra effort that must have taken. But that gives you no right to hate people who had parents help them out financially while going to school.

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Old 11-19-2007, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Britx
Somebody kill this thread please.

Why?

We old farts are ‘sharing’ our knowledge. I hope that someone will learn something.
Remember, the life you save may be mine.





Furthermore, nothing is funnier than a teenager full of themselves.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:02 PM
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uhh...about my post before...100 a month and paying half the guys...i was completely joking with you guys...haha. sorry if it sounded too serious. i am seventeen. ultimatley, my parents paid 1600 dollars towards my car, and they do pay half the insurance...

i made a 20,000 down payment on my car....9k or so to go.

but please dont confuse me with a thread of ignorant teenagers. age is just a number.

http://i10.tinypic.com/6xg6nuv.jpg

http://i6.tinypic.com/6tcw2vc.jpg

here, tell me how old i look.

you guys can place blame on age, but as for me, the only people who i feel these kinds of "emotions" towards are those who are incapable of realization and appreciation of what they are given.

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Old 11-19-2007, 07:08 PM
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oh yeah, and who said we teens cant afford our own cars? lol. ill be honest guys, want to see where a percentage of my car payment came from?


http://i17.tinypic.com/6kyjlau.jpg

try rolling that over the weekend. haha...to all the adults, i understand fully why this thread is here. but age isnt the issue, maturity is.

Now, lets close this thread up, and all be friends.
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Originally Posted by Salvatorey
uhh...about my post before...100 a month and paying half the guys...i was completely joking with you guys...haha. sorry if it sounded too serious. i am seventeen. ultimatley, my parents paid 1600 dollars towards my car, and they do pay half the insurance...

i made a 20,000 down payment on my car....9k or so to go.

but please dont confuse me with a thread of ignorant teenagers. age is just a number.





here, tell me how old i look.

you guys can place blame on age, but as for me, the only people who i feel these kinds of "emotions" towards are those who are incapable of realization and appreciation of what they are given.

Uh ... so you felt the need to show a picture of yourself flexing in the Mirror??
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:15 PM
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lol, well i dont think that pic was in a mirror..not sure though, its an oldy.

just making a point regarding effort is all.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Salvatorey
oh yeah, and who said we teens cant afford our own cars? lol. ill be honest guys, want to see where a percentage of my car payment came from?


http://i17.tinypic.com/6kyjlau.jpg

try rolling that over the weekend. haha...to all the adults, i understand fully why this thread is here. but age isnt the issue, maturity is.

Now, lets close this thread up, and all be friends.
howd you get that many coins? you been stealing from parking meters?
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Salvatorey
... but age isnt the issue, maturity is.


And on a car forum posting pictures of oneself flexing is a sign of maturity?

The irony is too much.

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Old 11-20-2007, 09:04 AM
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How did this thread get so out of control?
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:10 AM
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I remember my friend buying his first car with spare change he and his family had saved over the years.. It took like a week to get it all changed in at the casinos. haha. $2K for like a mid 80's brown camaro.

He kept it for 3 years or so.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SRTtoZ
bah...

Enough arguing for me.

I love Z's, so I love you.
Do you love me too. I have plenty of love for the homies...
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Originally Posted by SRTtoZ
Who the hell are YOU to say what someone can and cannot afford?!!
Originally Posted by Hraesvelg
I am Hraesvelg. I am Lord of the forum, behold my greatness.
I'm the Juggernaut bish. Worship me, Worship me!


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Originally Posted by quiksilver38
howd you get that many coins? you been stealing from parking meters?

Ive collected them over time. quite a bunch eh? I think it added up to about $2,650.
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by marhot


And on a car forum posting pictures of oneself flexing is a sign of maturity?

The irony is too much.

Well. Actually, I think the irony comes in to play when people attempt to belittle other members who own the car in which the forum regards..

here, this will sit better in the forum below.

http://www.raisingkids.co.uk/forum/d...ion=1&get=last
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