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Old 07-12-2011, 07:37 AM
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if it is this hard to decide, just use the 38k for taxi's.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:30 AM
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if your a hipster that likes your dumb friends to pile into your immature looking car and disrespect everything they can from door sills to carpet get the corolla with a bodykit i mean the 38000!$ subaru. wtf they used to be 33! if you want to spend 38k on a used car and its repairs get a m3 that the careless owner thrashed for 6 years without changing the oil.
or get a good looking reliable reasonably priced rwd v6 true sports car that CAN be upgraded unlike 2litre turbo 4bangers. if you have money to get a new sti the choice is pretty obvious get a 370z, look at some of the lowered 370s with rims here on the forum they look incredible. its smaller than the 350 more powerful, better trans, has warranty and honestly really grew on me, it does take time its very aggressive. nismo looks crazy cool.
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I am guessing he is over it...
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Originally Posted by scotts300 View Post
The HR Zs do not get 20mpg on an average tank. Our 03' and 04' do, but not our 07'. Same drivers, same commute, same gas - 20% less fuel efficiency at least.

And OP - why are you willing to consider a used M3 but not a used ABC car (STI/Evo)? An Evo8 is bad***, and will run $20k MAX. Give me $20k and tell me to buy a single car for all-around use (commute, groceries, track, autox, night out, etc.), and that's where my money goes.
depending on the accuracy of the inboard mpg calculator, I'm averaging 21-22 between city and highway in my 2008. If they are known to be really inaccurate then disregard my statement.
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Originally Posted by redzblackh View Post
Don't matter which one u get, the mod bug is gonna bite ya, get the Z, best bang for muck and you'll get more out of your mods
I know this is an older post on this thread...but what?? Downpipe on an sti will get you more power than exhaust tp's and intake on a z lol (trust me, had a ms6 and the z, i know!!). The z will probably give you the LEAST out of hyour mods!.....but only cuz it's already perfect
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Originally Posted by J 0 K 3 R View Post
if your a hipster that likes your dumb friends to pile into your immature looking car and disrespect everything they can from door sills to carpet get the corolla with a bodykit i mean the 38000!$ subaru. wtf they used to be 33! if you want to spend 38k on a used car and its repairs get a m3 that the careless owner thrashed for 6 years without changing the oil.
or get a good looking reliable reasonably priced rwd v6 true sports car that CAN be upgraded unlike 2litre turbo 4bangers. if you have money to get a new sti the choice is pretty obvious get a 370z, look at some of the lowered 370s with rims here on the forum they look incredible. its smaller than the 350 more powerful, better trans, has warranty and honestly really grew on me, it does take time its very aggressive. nismo looks crazy cool.
That made me lol.

An sti or evo responds a lot better to upgrades than a Z, getting more bang for your buck. You are very misinformed.

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Old 07-15-2011, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SchismX View Post
That made me lol.

An sti or evo responds a lot better to upgrades than a Z, getting more bang for your buck. You are very misinformed.
do you know anything about motors? or cars? how do you come up with that sh!#, 3.5 litre vs a 2.0 or 2.5 litre. put the BEST internals on both of them, they will be the same strenghth wise. then put the biggest turbo you can on them both, if the turbos are anywhere near the same size and boost the 3 litre will make more power der.
im not talking autozone filter upgrades kid. obviously a car with a turbo will benefit more from an intake.
misinformed? how do you figure any of this anyway, troll maybe, the sti and evo make 300 hp WITH a turbo! sti is pushing 14.5 lbs boost and a stock evo is at 19 PSI!! and still has less power than my stock z. run 1half that psi on a 16g turbo in a 350z and it will make 400+ hp. over 600 with 19psi.
yes the z will cost more to upgrade because it is not a cheap 4cyl aimed at kids in their late teens that know nothing about cars except that it matches their favorite baseball hat or basketball jersey.
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Originally Posted by J 0 K 3 R View Post
do you know anything about motors? or cars? how do you come up with that sh!#, 3.5 litre vs a 2.0 or 2.5 litre. put the BEST internals on both of them, they will be the same strenghth wise. then put the biggest turbo you can on them both, if the turbos are anywhere near the same size and boost the 3 litre will make more power der.
im not talking autozone filter upgrades kid. obviously a car with a turbo will benefit more from an intake.
misinformed? how do you figure any of this anyway, troll maybe, the sti and evo make 300 hp WITH a turbo! sti is pushing 14.5 lbs boost and a stock evo is at 19 PSI!! and still has less power than my stock z. run 1half that psi on a 16g turbo in a 350z and it will make 400+ hp. over 600 with 19psi.
yes the z will cost more to upgrade because it is not a cheap 4cyl aimed at kids in their late teens that know nothing about cars except that it matches their favorite baseball hat or basketball jersey.
what i think the previous guy meant was that in order to have the Z perform like the sti and evo performance wise it would take more $ to do so than it would on the sti and or evo once upgrades were being done even though stock vs stock #'s are close.

btw owning an 05 sti and then an 06 evo ix just a simple $40.00 manual boost controller installed allowed me to blow away my Z with extensive bolt ons...YES do to the turbo. which in my eyes it is a wonder why nissan never just stocked it with a turbo from the get go. and then i have to come to realize that my engine is shared with almost every other nissan on the road. Sad days when a maxima can keep up.

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Originally Posted by J 0 K 3 R View Post
or get a good looking reliable reasonably priced rwd v6 true sports car that CAN be upgraded unlike 2litre turbo 4bangers.
I always thought of the 350z more as a cruiser than a true sports car. Not so sure about the 4 banger vs v6 comment, the Evo with a drop in filter with exhaust and the little 2liter is at 300 awhp. Then again what do I know, I just own both cars.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Venture View Post
what i think the previous guy meant was that in order to have the Z perform like the sti and evo performance wise it would take more $ to do so than it would on the sti and or evo once upgrades were being done even though stock vs stock #'s are close.

btw owning an 05 sti and then an 06 evo ix just a simple $40.00 manual boost controller installed allowed me to blow away my Z with extensive bolt ons...YES do to the turbo. which in my eyes it is a wonder why nissan never just stocked it with a turbo from the get go. and then i have to come to realize that my engine is shared with almost every other nissan on the road. Sad days when a maxima can keep up.
then you know if you put a turbo on the z it would be way faster than the evo.
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Originally Posted by J 0 K 3 R View Post
then you know if you put a turbo on the z it would be way faster than the evo.
Dollar for dollar, a factory FI car will usually outgain a factory NA car.

This is especially true for turbo cars with iron blocks
It's the reason why I jumped on the 2JZ/1JZ bandwagon. Much cheaper (and usually more reliable) to get power out of a car already built for boost.
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^truth. I put 2k in to my 2011 wrx and I went from 235whp to 300whp. torque gained even more going all the way up to 330tq.

in my z, I put about 3k into mods (all basic n/a bolt ons, short of headers, and an osiris tune) and I gained a total of 20whp.

bang for the buck, factory fi'ed cars are for the win. obviously, if you go to town on an n/a build and turn it into an fi field, it's a different beast, and will also cost you a lot more .. : P
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Originally Posted by J 0 K 3 R View Post
then you know if you put a turbo on the z it would be way faster than the evo.

stock vs stock then turbo the z #'s wise yes. but it is not like you will be rabbit against turtle.

in the long run an engine designed for fi will always out weigh an engine designed for NA when FI is introduced. simple facts are in the designs. and the upgrades always favor the engine designed for FI. Remember stock vs stock. now if you add the internal upgrades for the z to be able to withstand more power then that is a diff story. But sticking to the COST of upgrading between the 3 engines, unless you plan to win racing trophies or play Toretto's role it is not worth it. Also throw in the AWD capabilities...save that for a rainy day. IM OUT!

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E36 ftw!
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Originally Posted by J 0 K 3 R View Post
do you know anything about motors? or cars? how do you come up with that sh!#, 3.5 litre vs a 2.0 or 2.5 litre. put the BEST internals on both of them, they will be the same strenghth wise. then put the biggest turbo you can on them both, if the turbos are anywhere near the same size and boost the 3 litre will make more power der.
im not talking autozone filter upgrades kid. obviously a car with a turbo will benefit more from an intake.
misinformed? how do you figure any of this anyway, troll maybe, the sti and evo make 300 hp WITH a turbo! sti is pushing 14.5 lbs boost and a stock evo is at 19 PSI!! and still has less power than my stock z. run 1half that psi on a 16g turbo in a 350z and it will make 400+ hp. over 600 with 19psi.
yes the z will cost more to upgrade because it is not a cheap 4cyl aimed at kids in their late teens that know nothing about cars except that it matches their favorite baseball hat or basketball jersey.
lol. If we were talking about built motors you might be right, but we're not... The big reason a Z can make more power on less boost is its higher compression motor. I guess you really misunderstood what I was getting at. Seems that everyone else understood me but you.

P.S., I'm not a kid.

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Forget the rice....2005 Vette FTW!
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^ i'd rather get an evo. More fun to drive plus a lil upgrading craps on vettes.
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^--- Well put. Definitely worth the 35+ day bump.
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Buy a USED G35 sedan with a 6spd.

Its not a cop magnet, it has backseats, it doesn't cost that much, its RWD, and really it's still a Nissan and you have worked on tons of Nissan so why not keep it in the family?
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