Keep the Z or go with a '11 EVO X GSR?
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On a more serious note, old job had me working a chitload of hours but glad I have a more routine job that won't have me working 10+ hours a day on salary pay.
Still in Korea?
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Heard you got Donald Trump'd from your old job.
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I may only be new to the forums however I do have a huge passion for cars and I do currently own a 350z.
Unless you need the extra space do not switch to the Evo. Why would you ever go to a 4 cylinder awd 4 door from a Z. I cannot stand the disgusting sound of a 4 cylinder, and the slow response of a 4 cylinder. The Z is timeless it looks beautiful and makes you feel great behind the wheel. The cockpit may be a little on the cheap side however the interior design elements such as the seating position, gauge clusters, red dials and that massive tach make you feel like you are driving a SPORTS CAR and that is a great feeling. This feeling cannot be replicated in a 4 door sedan that looks like everything else on the road. Simply put the Z is a drivers car the evo is not regardless of what the press says.
On the modification front you can buy a turbonetics single turbo kit for 5 grand and you will make 380+whp and it will be plenty reliable for a DD. If you buy a new EVO you will spend far more than 5 grand just purchasing the car and never have the potential the Z had because at the end of the performance road the Z has far more displacement and that means you are going to make far more power on pump gas than you could with the evo. For the difference in price between a new evo and a Z you could make the Z have 500+ whp all day long and that my friend is going to eat any evo you throw at it unless they are running race gas/meth injection.
Unless you need the extra space do not switch to the Evo. Why would you ever go to a 4 cylinder awd 4 door from a Z. I cannot stand the disgusting sound of a 4 cylinder, and the slow response of a 4 cylinder. The Z is timeless it looks beautiful and makes you feel great behind the wheel. The cockpit may be a little on the cheap side however the interior design elements such as the seating position, gauge clusters, red dials and that massive tach make you feel like you are driving a SPORTS CAR and that is a great feeling. This feeling cannot be replicated in a 4 door sedan that looks like everything else on the road. Simply put the Z is a drivers car the evo is not regardless of what the press says.
On the modification front you can buy a turbonetics single turbo kit for 5 grand and you will make 380+whp and it will be plenty reliable for a DD. If you buy a new EVO you will spend far more than 5 grand just purchasing the car and never have the potential the Z had because at the end of the performance road the Z has far more displacement and that means you are going to make far more power on pump gas than you could with the evo. For the difference in price between a new evo and a Z you could make the Z have 500+ whp all day long and that my friend is going to eat any evo you throw at it unless they are running race gas/meth injection.
Definitely did NOT hit a sore spot. Ask anybody here... I'm a HUGE Z fan, more so than my love for Mitsubishis. Hell, I ask my wife on a constant basis to let me sell the Evo so I can get another Z (yes, another... I'm a prior 350Z owner, so I got a slight clue what I'm talking about, unlike you).
The diarrhea coming out of your mouth is ridiculous, and shows you have no clue about what you're talking about. On top of that, I can definitely tell you have little to no experience with Evolutions.
Please don't talk about potential, because you'll fail in an instant. Please tell me... how many street-driven 9 second Z's are out there? What are the fastest time-attack cars? LMAO at you talking about theoretics and WHP... doesn't mean **** when you get stomped on track.
The diarrhea coming out of your mouth is ridiculous, and shows you have no clue about what you're talking about. On top of that, I can definitely tell you have little to no experience with Evolutions.
Please don't talk about potential, because you'll fail in an instant. Please tell me... how many street-driven 9 second Z's are out there? What are the fastest time-attack cars? LMAO at you talking about theoretics and WHP... doesn't mean **** when you get stomped on track.
Let's settle this:
It would be foolish to ignore the Z or the EVO's inherit potential, as well as their known weaknesses. The EVO is certainly easier and more cost efficient to get it into the 12's or 11's (I'll leave road courses out of this because that's a given...) But it becomes increasingly difficult to go past that, whereas with the Z, it would be easier in my opinion. And this is when the playing field becomes even. And at some point the old, ''there's no replacement for displacement'' saying does ring true. Not including the fact that there is less **** that can break on the Z. While with the EVO, needless to say, you run into issues with things like transfer cases, gearboxes, etc...
Traction is not as much of an issue on a RWD car that's running slicks, this has been proven time and time again and it is common knowledge now. The Z would simply match or even beat the EVO out of the hole.
But back to the subject matter...
I went to the Mitsu dealer and almost pulled the trigger. All I had to do is sign, and the EVO would have been mine. But unfortunately I couldn't get the monthly note where I wanted it to be. Mostly because of the trim that they had in stock (I couldn't justify paying 40k for options that I didn't want.) So even with the money left from my trade in and a sizeable down payment, it still didn't matter. Plus, having two vehicles to trade in is never a good idea. Too many variables.
I love my Z, so, the deal would have had to been right for me to go through with it.
04-08-2011, 08:05 AM
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i'm still shocked that dealerships won't let you test drive some 30k$ car. Then again i'm not sure what the driving history or credit of these people they won't let test drive stuff.
I had no problem getting a test drive in a new viper and a new mercedes. The salesman didn't even come with me on the test drive in the mercedes.
get off your high horse mitsu, the car isn't THAT great.
I had no problem getting a test drive in a new viper and a new mercedes. The salesman didn't even come with me on the test drive in the mercedes.
get off your high horse mitsu, the car isn't THAT great.
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Let's settle this:
It would be foolish to ignore the Z or the EVO's inherit potential, as well as their known weaknesses. The EVO is certainly easier and more cost efficient to get it into the 12's or 11's (I'll leave road courses out of this because that's a given...) But it becomes increasingly difficult to go past that, whereas with the Z, it would be easier in my opinion. And this is when the playing field becomes even. And at some point the old, ''there's no replacement for displacement'' saying does ring true. Not including the fact that there is less **** that can break on the Z. While with the EVO, needless to say, you run into issues with things like transfer cases, gearboxes, etc...
It would be foolish to ignore the Z or the EVO's inherit potential, as well as their known weaknesses. The EVO is certainly easier and more cost efficient to get it into the 12's or 11's (I'll leave road courses out of this because that's a given...) But it becomes increasingly difficult to go past that, whereas with the Z, it would be easier in my opinion. And this is when the playing field becomes even. And at some point the old, ''there's no replacement for displacement'' saying does ring true. Not including the fact that there is less **** that can break on the Z. While with the EVO, needless to say, you run into issues with things like transfer cases, gearboxes, etc...
Definitely, DEFINITELY more **** that can (and most likely will) break on the Evo without taking proper precautions, which you won't see on the Z.
04-08-2011, 04:29 PM
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One thing you gotta understand is a large number of people that want to buy an Evo plan on beating the **** out of it. They would also like to beat on it during the test drive, and a lot of them won't buy the one they tested. Dealers don't want to deal with that. The buyers of Mercedes, Vipers, BMWs, etc. are usually not buying/testing the car because they want something they can beat the **** out of.
04-08-2011, 07:33 PM
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I love my Z but the X is just an awesome car even as a DD, it just handles like no other I've driven.
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04-09-2011, 07:27 AM
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Your opinion is wrong. It's not even about opinions... it's about proven results. Difficult for Evos to get past 11's? There is an abundance of 10 second Evos, and as I said before, plenty of daily-driven 9 second examples. Can't say the same about Z's.
Definitely, DEFINITELY more **** that can (and most likely will) break on the Evo without taking proper precautions, which you won't see on the Z.
Definitely, DEFINITELY more **** that can (and most likely will) break on the Evo without taking proper precautions, which you won't see on the Z.
I don't see many 10/9 second street/daily-driven EVO X's out there...
But even with the trusty iron block 4G63, you won't get those sort of numbers on stock internals and drivetrain man. Which is what I meant by the playing field being level at a certain point. Yeah sure, it is relatively cheap to get EVO's to 12's/11's (like I stated earlier) and yeah you can make 400 AWHP rather easily, but after that, the Z and the EVO are even cost performance wise.
And you have to realize that you don't see many all-out performance oriented Z's out there, simply because our community is different from the EVO's. Most of our community are more concerned about being ''hellaflush''. It is NOT that the 350-370Z isn't capable.