Dallasmavs92

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what a bunch of ****.

mhammel20

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lmao..

J 0 K 3 R

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDqRy9bhtc

Kcee91

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willyumq

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I agree with OP.

In many "sporty" but less communicative and more forgiving cars, its easy to forget how fast you're going, ignore the car, and to ignore road conditions because the driver gets put to sleep and goes into auto pilot mode.

The Z never lets the driver forget it's there! It keeps the driver awake by bombarding us with constant input via suspension, steering, and noise. And it also responds right away to our inputs, which is a good thing but also dangerous because quick car response needs quick human reflexes.

This constant forced awareness of the car day after day does undoubtedly increase the drivers relationship to, and awareness of, the car.

Imo. If you are more aware of the car and its relationship to the environment, then you are a better driver.

So yes, driving the Z does make you a better driver ~2cents

Kcee91

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@willyumq, I also agree on your statement. I was just suggesting that if he wants to learn his car more at its limits, he needs to take it to track or go participate in an HPDE event. @OP, The most important thing is that the you learned from your mistakes. I didn't mean to be harsh about it bro. We as a community forum have heard about many people getting into accidents doing wreckless things. We hate seeing other individuals especially the one's with Z's getting into wrecks and such. Moreover, the issue I don't like is how some individuals placed you up on some pedestal with the wrx situation. Nobody is perfect and everyone here has made a mistake in the past. I made a mistake in the past, but I learned from it. Just know the limits of the car as well as the conditions and enjoy the car. :thumb up:

In the wise words of Ayrton Senna, "Many times through a mistake, due to your own personality, your own character, or interference that you get on the way, that you learn, and the main thing is to make sure you learn through your mistakes and get better."

Arvin89

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I agree about the cars making you forget how fast your going etc. Like most of the BMW's and Benz's I've driven, i wouldn't be able to tell if i was doing the limit or 20 over. They're so smooth and quiet, its really quite deceptive.

xSKYBLASTx

I think the car not only forces you to pay attention, but also in emergency situations gives you the responsiveness you need to match your reflexes. In the second day after i got my Z I was driving home at night in the rain. I was approaching a red light when the person in front of me braked because they were on their phone and werent paying attention. It was a one lane road that expanded into three at about that same area as that car. I was going the speed limit, but I was too close to them to stop completely and was forced to swerve my car once the road opened up. As fearful as I was for the danger I was in, I couldnt help but realize How smooth it really was

Arvin89

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Haha no kidding. Putting the pedal to the metal in the 323 courtesy car Ive been lugging around doesn't even make my neck move.

BrokenVow

Better driver? Or an averagely aware driver?

Deltavision21

Like I've stated members on this forum are beyond ruthless sometimes, but this time with good reason. You can't expect to receive good feedback with a story like that. Something tells me you are young and on a budget because you can't afford new tires. Calling you poor is a bit harsh, I will say you need to buy new tires period. I live in florida so I'm not used to the snow, but when I was in Utah this december I was there for 1 week and I didn't see 1 Z. And with good reason, they don't belong in the winter.

I've been in your shoes, you just want to tell people your story but after a while you'll realize things that you just do not say.

As far as Z making me a better driver, I can agree with that in some sort. It's made me a better drive too because I've learned to take corners carefully and respect the RWD.

anthony87

I agree. Living up here in Montreal we got LOTS of snow. I know of a few who still drive their Z's in this bad temp (stupid i know..). But even with winter tires and the best of driving, these cars are just not meant to be driven in snow, period. You get stuck everywhere, and the car is so low it just acts like a really expensive snow plow..

Long story short, just buy yourself a beater, and keep your Z clean and fresh for the summer months!

Alberto

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Your sarcasm meter is fawked up you idiot.

kcee-it's good, hibernating for the winter.

J 0 K 3 R

+1 on snow tires, the beater, and expensive snow plow lol. heres my combo of the 3.



its pretty necessary to have a big truck in the winter where im at right now (not cali). *notice the truck behind mine. The Z71 likes the snow, the Z33..not so much. theres a reason its not in the picture.

keptman

,,,

plusONETEN

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When i got my 240sx, it had bald summer tires and i had to drive it from FL to NY. I have tons of snow driving experience and that car tried to kill me when i drove under this overpass - i reacted properly and stayed in my lane despite getting quite sideways, because i knew what to do - but if i didnt know, i would have probably crashed and learned nothing.



My point - driving in the snow can teach you a lot about car control, but if you dont take i easy and learn slow, all you will do is crash your car and not know what you did wrong.



I learned in empty snowy parking lots, like a lot of northerners probably did. Also backroads are fun. Slippery conditions are awesome because you can hone the same car control skills without going so fast that you might kill someone.... snow tends to be fairly consistent if you go out when the conditions are right, not when there are patches of all different kinds of snow ice, etc. that stuff is pretty fun. i have this 1994 pathfinder and i get rid of it before i get to drive it in the snow im going to be a bit bummed lol...

pmab9918

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Cool story bro

anthony87

Damn that thing must be a beast in the white stuff man.. i want one lol..
Where you located now? doesnt look that snowy though..

J 0 K 3 R

its definately fun offroad. im in wyoming now. theres usually more than a few inches of snow on the roads in the morning before the plows go around.

Spider Monkey

Why do you have such a sandy vagina bro?
Well at least a vagina for sure.