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I just hate the American stereotype of a low car not being able to handle or turn blah blah blah....the Japanese have made this an art of being able to manipulate a car to turn even if it doesn't look like it could. Not defending the blue or yellow car at all. Just reminding folks that there are many ways to go fast and enjoy a Z car. I hate a car that is fast and doesn't go fast...that's my position.
Then suspension is also a huge black art. The combo if spring rate, damper setting, sway bar , geometry , toe/camber , then even aero. Lots of stuff to figure out.
Then King, you may be fast on the back roads, but when you hit the track , it is a huge difference. What feels good on the street , may really hinder the car when pushed to 10/10th.
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I am not a fan of huge camber, so what I plan on doing is running a pretty low ride height on wide wheels and meaty tires, in order to have a nice stance and maintain its functionality. Where i'm from some people like to call it "meatflush".
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The track has a lot to do with ride height. The JGTC cars that race Autoclub 5 or 6 years ago learned that.
Then suspension is also a huge black art. The combo if spring rate, damper setting, sway bar , geometry , toe/camber , then even aero. Lots of stuff to figure out.
Then King, you may be fast on the back roads, but when you hit the track , it is a huge difference. What feels good on the street , may really hinder the car when pushed to 10/10th.
Then suspension is also a huge black art. The combo if spring rate, damper setting, sway bar , geometry , toe/camber , then even aero. Lots of stuff to figure out.
Then King, you may be fast on the back roads, but when you hit the track , it is a huge difference. What feels good on the street , may really hinder the car when pushed to 10/10th.
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Not needed lol Russ's black Z is so damn sexy!
I still prefer my 275mm/18x9.5 square set-up. Square tire is without a doubt, by far, the best thing you can do to a 350Z. It makes the car feel much more neutral instead of fighting understeer the entire time.
I still prefer my 275mm/18x9.5 square set-up. Square tire is without a doubt, by far, the best thing you can do to a 350Z. It makes the car feel much more neutral instead of fighting understeer the entire time.
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That set up on that grey stock Z is so stock looking, yet you managed to mess up the quarters... Nice pull brah.
BTW, the irony...
"I made that a few weeks back and posted it on my .com Facebook page"
YET
"Don't ruin its soul by downgrading its handling capabilities for the sake of internet fame. Real automotive enthusiasts care about driving, not blog features."
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You may be able to turn on the track but I turn heads on the streets and that is what most of the guys such as myself are about.. ya dig? And if you cannot understand that then I am guessing this is the only way you justify your stock looking z.
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Turning after racing 140mph down the hwy, lol
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BTW, the irony...
"I made that a few weeks back and posted it on my .com Facebook page"
YET
"Don't ruin its soul by downgrading its handling capabilities for the sake of internet fame. Real automotive enthusiasts care about driving, not blog features."
![dunno](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
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You may be able to turn on the track but I turn heads on the streets and that is what most of the guys such as myself are about.. ya dig? And if you cannot understand that then I am guessing this is the only way you justify your stock looking z.
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Turning after racing 140mph down the hwy, lol
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Honestly I don't understand the hate for either form of modding. We all have a love for the platform, just because on loves form over function and the other the opposite who cares. The love of the culture should be the only thing that matters.
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im on the rocks about all this. while i would never do such things to my own car, the overly aggressive camber, and bodykits, etc leave a sour taste in my mouth in general if not properly executed. but when i see them in person im intrigued. its nice seeing diversity, it really is. and i catch myself checking out the wheel fitment, and seeing how such kits change the body (for better or worse), and what has to be done to accommodate such mods. they may not be mine or others taste, useful, or even tasteful in general (which is subjective), but i do appreciate the diversity. besides, it seperates the guys who actually drive their cars, and the guys who park their cars ![Stick Out Tongue](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
case in point; bmcann, muzzy, and greengoblins cars are excellent examples of what most would say are aggressive bodies, even over the top. nothing i would ever do to my own car personally. however the way they executed it is a prime example of how a well thought out, properly executed setup changes what we say is ugly, to indubitably badass, and attractive. those cars are perfectly done, at least imho, but its all subjective, as is everything else in life.
but there is no excuse, ever, for running those ugly bubble tailights. not ever.
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case in point; bmcann, muzzy, and greengoblins cars are excellent examples of what most would say are aggressive bodies, even over the top. nothing i would ever do to my own car personally. however the way they executed it is a prime example of how a well thought out, properly executed setup changes what we say is ugly, to indubitably badass, and attractive. those cars are perfectly done, at least imho, but its all subjective, as is everything else in life.
but there is no excuse, ever, for running those ugly bubble tailights. not ever.
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take all the cars in this thread to the same track, give them to an experienced driver, and compare lap times. heck y'all can just compare cars/drivers. other than that everyone and their mom thinks their car handles the best and is the fastest.
Any car can be a head turner.... not necessarily a good thing, but at least you ain't stock (z)brah.
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That set up on that grey stock Z is so stock looking, yet you managed to mess up the quarters... Nice pull brah.
You may be able to turn on the track but I turn heads on the streets and that is what most of the guys such as myself are about.. ya dig? And if you cannot understand that then I am guessing this is the only way you justify your stock looking z.
You may be able to turn on the track but I turn heads on the streets and that is what most of the guys such as myself are about.. ya dig? And if you cannot understand that then I am guessing this is the only way you justify your stock looking z.
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I think we need a hellaflush vs normal shoot out at Autoclub speedway during the Fontana Nissan meet in Sept.