No Flames please, but how lame is it to get sunroof installed??
I was reading on a website where they install sunroofs. How bad is this? How much would it mess with warrnty, value and most importantly, how much would it mess with handeling of the car. I am NOT seriously concidering this, but thought it was an interesting concept
Its really your car, so if you really want one go for it.
I think when you cut into your Z through it takes away from its structural integrity of the body. Please correct me if I'm wrong anyone..
The long term problem of sunroofs can also be leaks over the years from the weatherstrip or something..
But if you like it go for it you'll be the first of probably to get one and make sure to get pictures
Its your car!
Enjoy the Ride
I think when you cut into your Z through it takes away from its structural integrity of the body. Please correct me if I'm wrong anyone..
The long term problem of sunroofs can also be leaks over the years from the weatherstrip or something..
But if you like it go for it you'll be the first of probably to get one and make sure to get pictures
Its your car!Enjoy the Ride
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Hmmm, all very interesting, all though the barf comment was a little lame. My point was that they have always had ttops and are making a convertable, with the small roof it would be like a 911 Targa Top, but I would prob. be very wary of taking a saw to my Z....
I talked with the engineer himself and he said DON'T DO IT. No aftermarket vendor will touch it anyhow. This is why I'm not taking my Z. Nissan made a big mistake not having a moonroof or t-roof option. I can't imagine a car without a moonroof!
Originally posted by PatZ
I talked with the engineer himself and he said DON'T DO IT. No aftermarket vendor will touch it anyhow. This is why I'm not taking my Z. Nissan made a big mistake not having a moonroof or t-roof option. I can't imagine a car without a moonroof!
I talked with the engineer himself and he said DON'T DO IT. No aftermarket vendor will touch it anyhow. This is why I'm not taking my Z. Nissan made a big mistake not having a moonroof or t-roof option. I can't imagine a car without a moonroof!
I seriously doubt removing a small patch of surface sheet-metal is going to compromise the rigidity of the car in any circumstance besides extreme (that is, accident related) situations.
Major structural bracing is most likely limited to the outer edges of the roof, along the tops of the windows. If the hole is small enough to be made in areas of the roof lacking inner bracing, installing a moon roof compromises the structure of the car about as much as a door ding.
Not that I'd ever let let somebody chainsaw my car. This is a purely hypothetical situation.
Major structural bracing is most likely limited to the outer edges of the roof, along the tops of the windows. If the hole is small enough to be made in areas of the roof lacking inner bracing, installing a moon roof compromises the structure of the car about as much as a door ding.
Not that I'd ever let let somebody chainsaw my car. This is a purely hypothetical situation.
Originally posted by Fëanor
I seriously doubt removing a small patch of surface sheet-metal is going to compromise the rigidity of the car in any circumstance besides extreme (that is, accident related) situations.
Major structural bracing is most likely limited to the outer edges of the roof, along the tops of the windows. If the hole is small enough to be made in areas of the roof lacking inner bracing, installing a moon roof compromises the structure of the car about as much as a door ding.
Not that I'd ever let let somebody chainsaw my car. This is a purely hypothetical situation.
I seriously doubt removing a small patch of surface sheet-metal is going to compromise the rigidity of the car in any circumstance besides extreme (that is, accident related) situations.
Major structural bracing is most likely limited to the outer edges of the roof, along the tops of the windows. If the hole is small enough to be made in areas of the roof lacking inner bracing, installing a moon roof compromises the structure of the car about as much as a door ding.
Not that I'd ever let let somebody chainsaw my car. This is a purely hypothetical situation.
In addition to the structural issues, the roof is too small, and too curved, to get a moonroof in there. We just have to realize it can't be done, and go from there. Either accept the coupe as it is, or wait for a convertible model. I'd rather have a moonroof than a convertible! And please, no comments about just putting down the window, or having eyes at the top of your head.
I will not be sawing my Z anytime soon, but I will tell you this..
Of all the things I miss the most about both my 85 and 90 300Z's, the T-Tops are among the highest things on my list. Never had a problem with leaking, and thoroughly enjoyed every chance to remove them. If they were an option, I would have purchased it without thinking twice. I had a moonroof on my Acura RSX, and never used it, too much noise, not nearly as much fun as t-tops.
Of all the things I miss the most about both my 85 and 90 300Z's, the T-Tops are among the highest things on my list. Never had a problem with leaking, and thoroughly enjoyed every chance to remove them. If they were an option, I would have purchased it without thinking twice. I had a moonroof on my Acura RSX, and never used it, too much noise, not nearly as much fun as t-tops.
Originally posted by Fëanor
I seriously doubt removing a small patch of surface sheet-metal is going to compromise the rigidity of the car in any circumstance besides extreme (that is, accident related) situations.
Major structural bracing is most likely limited to the outer edges of the roof, along the tops of the windows. If the hole is small enough to be made in areas of the roof lacking inner bracing, installing a moon roof compromises the structure of the car about as much as a door ding.
Not that I'd ever let let somebody chainsaw my car. This is a purely hypothetical situation.
I seriously doubt removing a small patch of surface sheet-metal is going to compromise the rigidity of the car in any circumstance besides extreme (that is, accident related) situations.
Major structural bracing is most likely limited to the outer edges of the roof, along the tops of the windows. If the hole is small enough to be made in areas of the roof lacking inner bracing, installing a moon roof compromises the structure of the car about as much as a door ding.
Not that I'd ever let let somebody chainsaw my car. This is a purely hypothetical situation.
having not seen a body repair manual for the z yet i can only guess on this. most car companies place a X cross brace across the roof to aid in rigidity.
the early fox body mustangs came with after market t tops and moon roofs. when owners started building the motors (200+hp) the top would pop out of place when lanched hard. this happned on a lot of cars in the early eighties.
this has never been a big issue on Japaneese imports because they never really had much hp and are almost always front wheel drive.
Short answer: very lame indeed.
Long answer: could cause a world of problems, including loss of structural rigidity, leaking, corrosion, lowered resale value, creaks and rattles, wind noise, etc. etc. Don't do it man!
Long answer: could cause a world of problems, including loss of structural rigidity, leaking, corrosion, lowered resale value, creaks and rattles, wind noise, etc. etc. Don't do it man!
One of the reasons I bought the Z was, NO MOONROOF. Iam sick of having to buy a car I want with the mandatory moonroof or t-top. Its a rip-off to increase the manufactures profits that you can't delete. I have also not been able to fit into cars I really wanted because I am tall.
My 91 MR2 Turbo had t-tops because almost all of the Turbos were imported with them and I couldn't find one without them. I took them off 4!! times in the 7 years I owned the car beause they are noisy and allow tons of grit and other debris into the car.
I hate paying over a $1K for a mandatory option I don't use. Also, you could feel the MR2 chassis twist over uneven pavement even with the t-tops in. The Supra and the NSX lose structural integrity with the targa tops off.
You will lose structural integrity and reduce the sharp handling of the car, it can't look good because of the shape of the roof and your resale value will drop several $1Ks!; thats right, I said thousands and I have seen it happen.
Nobody wants a car with an aftermarket item some owner thought was cool that was not standard or an option on the car when purchased. No dealer will give you **** for tradein and they will wholesale the car the first minute they have it because it will be considered ruined. Trade for the new convertable if you need the open air just don't cut the roof, you will pay big bucks for it.
Boomer--vehemently opposed to ruining such a nice car.
My 91 MR2 Turbo had t-tops because almost all of the Turbos were imported with them and I couldn't find one without them. I took them off 4!! times in the 7 years I owned the car beause they are noisy and allow tons of grit and other debris into the car.
I hate paying over a $1K for a mandatory option I don't use. Also, you could feel the MR2 chassis twist over uneven pavement even with the t-tops in. The Supra and the NSX lose structural integrity with the targa tops off.
You will lose structural integrity and reduce the sharp handling of the car, it can't look good because of the shape of the roof and your resale value will drop several $1Ks!; thats right, I said thousands and I have seen it happen.
Nobody wants a car with an aftermarket item some owner thought was cool that was not standard or an option on the car when purchased. No dealer will give you **** for tradein and they will wholesale the car the first minute they have it because it will be considered ruined. Trade for the new convertable if you need the open air just don't cut the roof, you will pay big bucks for it.
Boomer--vehemently opposed to ruining such a nice car.
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