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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 06:31 AM
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Default NOTE TO SELF: Driving fast causes tires to wear faster....

At least, that's what my rear tires show me, and the left one is worn out A LOT more than the right one, is this due to the LSD-lessness (no LSD on base)? I have almost 8000, never done a burnout with my car, i will post a pic later so you guys can see what i'm talking about.

Anyone else wearing out there tires waaaaaay to quick?
I started driving normal (slow) yesterday, i almost fell asleep at the wheel...this should save me some money in tires AND gas, considering gas is $1.93/gal ($32 to fill the tank yesterday @16.6gallons)
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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I replaced all 4 stock tires @8k miles due to excessive road noise and I wanted all-season tires. The second set of rear tires were worn out after 9k more miles (at 17k), so now I'm on my 3rd set of rear tires.

The Z has excellent grip but that grip comes at a cost: the Z eats tires and tighter, lower, more aggressive setups will eat them faster. We can expect the roadster to eat tires even faster than the coupe due to its increased weight. Some see this as a design flaw with the Z's suspension but it's not, these soft sticky high-performance tires will simply not last on the Z, no way around it, if you're gonna drive a Z you're gonna go through tires, you gotta pay to play.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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i guess i can drive fast again then?

But just my logic, wouldn't driving faster increase the wear of the tires since the rotation speed on the tire is going faster, it would increase the amount of friction that the road applies to the tire (i am just rambling to sound intelligent...)?
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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You're right, expect higher speeds to increase tire wear.
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You all bring up a good point....What is the manufacturer stated tread-life on a set of RE040's? It is unfathomable that a tire would only last for 10-12K miles under normal daily-driver conditions. If you dog 'em out every day I could understand, but is it reasonable to expect that I'm going to replace my tires every 12 months, even if I don't drive like a mad man?
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Originally posted by Jun
At least, that's what my rear tires show me, and the left one is worn out A LOT more than the right one, is this due to the LSD-lessness (no LSD on base)? I have almost 8000, never done a burnout with my car, i will post a pic later so you guys can see what i'm talking about.

Anyone else wearing out there tires waaaaaay to quick?
I started driving normal (slow) yesterday, i almost fell asleep at the wheel...this should save me some money in tires AND gas, considering gas is $1.93/gal ($32 to fill the tank yesterday @16.6gallons)

Never done a burnout?????

Oh man, you don't know what your missing.....
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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i know i'm missing money from my wallet....
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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This is the reason I paid money for the tire warranty. When my tires begin to run out of tread just stick a nail in them at the very outer edge. Since this cannot be repaired, the tire must be exchanged. Saves A LOT OF $$$!!!

P.S. I have not tried this yet, just a theory. But its gotta to work, right?
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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My front ones died at 8500 of premature feathering... at that time I took the time to rotate the rears.

Now at 13,500 the rear were totally gone. I found out when it rained a little and I lost all tracktion on the hwy... made it home to realize I had no thread on the rears at all. So I just put on Pilots on the back to see if they last a little longer. They have a stronger rating... Car seems to be handling as well as before.

I don't think I am an abusive driver, I do take off hard sometimes and make it "sqeak" going to second gear. The rears wore out perfectly even, so it wasn't alignment or anything else, just tire wear.
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Oh, and by the way, if you keep an eye here on the classifieds tires come up for sale regularly. I have gotten very good deals and shipping via UPS is not bad at all. I have a new set of fronts already in my garage (pending further possible feathering) and I keep an eye out for a set of OEM rears... So you can get ahead of the tire game and save some money. Many people here get larger rims and OEM sizes come up for sale all the time.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by kcobean
You all bring up a good point....What is the manufacturer stated tread-life on a set of RE040's? It is unfathomable that a tire would only last for 10-12K miles under normal daily-driver conditions. If you dog 'em out every day I could understand, but is it reasonable to expect that I'm going to replace my tires every 12 months, even if I don't drive like a mad man?
The OE tires are wear rated 140 and I have been astonished to discover that a few drivers have exceeded 15,000 miles. 1 with pic, over 20,000 and another claimed 27,000 miles!! Most won't make it past 15, 000 miles with normal driving, thats why they have wear ratings. My A/Ss rating is 400, I expect 25-30,000 miles easy and may be a lot more even driving fast. If your tires are cupping/feathering, all estimates are out the window.

BTW, the 040s are not normal daily-driver tires, they are good track tires. Any tires with a wear rating of 180 or less aren't intended to last more than 15-16,000 miles.
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Originally posted by Boomer
The OE tires are wear rated 140 and I have been astonished to discover that a few drivers have exceeded 15,000 miles. 1 with pic, over 20,000 and another claimed 27,000 miles!! Most won't make it past 15, 000 miles with normal driving, thats why they have wear ratings. My A/Ss rating is 400, I expect 25-30,000 miles easy and may be a lot more even driving fast. If your tires are cupping/feathering, all estimates are out the window.

BTW, the 040s are not normal daily-driver tires, they are good track tires. Any tires with a wear rating of 180 or less aren't intended to last more than 15-16,000 miles.
so what tires do you have? i had no clue our tires were treadwear of 140, no wonder they wear out so fast. Where did you buy yours?
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Hi Jun. You can compare at www.tirerack.com, but the RE040 are WR rated tires with a 140 treadwear, while the Pilot Sports are a WR rating with a 220 treadwear. They cost a few more bucks, but they should last quite a bit longer. And they do come in the sizes used by the Z..

Another option is the S03s, they are YR rated with a 220 treadwear. In reviews they get good scores as the Pilots..
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by 350zluvr
This is the reason I paid money for the tire warranty. When my tires begin to run out of tread just stick a nail in them at the very outer edge. Since this cannot be repaired, the tire must be exchanged. Saves A LOT OF $$$!!!

P.S. I have not tried this yet, just a theory. But its gotta to work, right?
So every year you'll show up at the tire place with four flat tires, all with a nail in them? I think they'll catch on eventually...

Those of you who keep tires for more than 5000 miles should be ashamed of yourselves. Get out to a track and start cutting your tire life down! I'm lucky if I get 600 miles out of a $1,000 set of Hoosiers and I'm not complaining

Jason

P.S. Yes, my entire reply is tongue-in-cheek but I still think more 350Z owners should track their cars
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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i would, if i had the time, AND MONEY to afford tires
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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He he he I have over 28k miles on my stock RE040's, including quite a few burnouts, several local area canyon carving meets, a trip through the snow (yup, I put on cables), not to mention 4 round trips between LA & SF not to mention prolly 20 round trips between LA & San Diego, oh also a round trip out to vegas.

They don't grip so well anymore, but I'm learning a ton about the car's dynamics as she fishtails around. . .

And yes, I am going to be going for a new set of tires @ the end of the month. Possibly rims.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by Jason Bourne
So every year you'll show up at the tire place with four flat tires, all with a nail in them? I think they'll catch on eventually...
No, since the fronts and rears wear differently, I will only show up with either one set damaged, or just one tire at a time.

Yeh, all four tires with a nail in an unfixable area might give away my plans.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 06:54 AM
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good thing i bought the tire replacement plan then...hehe.

actually, i'm planning on purchasing different tires, i saw on www.discounttiredirect.com these new yokohamas (the say NEW!), no reviews, but they have a treadwear of....(drumroll please....)


500!!!

anyone have these?
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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I got 19k on the stock re040's and it looks like they still have a lil bit left in them. I have trouble figuring out if i have feathering, cuz the tires roar when braking hard from 30-0mph but its prolly normal, when i feel the inside of the front tires they dont feel perfectly smooth but pretty close and i bet its jus my mind thinking too hard. Also when i took off the front tires the inside has wore a lil bit more but not a ton more. When i put my sf challenges on next month ill get an alignment first thing.
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Jun, a treadwear of 500 means a harder compound. It usually means not so good "traction"/grab... Unfortunately, is like brakes, softer ones are better but you get all the dust and they wear faster.

I would be extremely interested to know how the Yokohama do. So far I feel the Pilots are doing as good as my RE040, but I am not an "extreme" driver nor do I track the car...
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