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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by dchengmd
Sorry I pissed you off so much, but just as you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine.
fair enough...



I'm wondering - do you also go up to guys who are wearing the same jeans or shirt as you are, say "hi, I like your clothes", and give a thumbs up?




The answer is No, because well...that's just plain gay. (no offense to gay people)

Waving to another Z owner is in a way acknowledging that we are both enthusiasts (as mentioned by Primaltone).

Just like when i'm walking my Siberian Husky and someone else walking a Siberian Husky walks by then I always try to strike up a conversation with them or at least acknoledge them in some way (a simple nod or smile).


Seriously, people - get a grip. It really is lame to get offended just because your props weren't acknowledged by a complete and total stranger. There are more meaningful things in life to be concerned about than a car.
Well it's called being polite. If someone says hi then you say hi back. If someone gives you a thumbs up then you acknowlege it. It's quite simple really. If you ignore them then dont you consider that as being rude?

Maybe it's just me but when I give someone a thumbs up/wave/whatever and they are blatantly ignoring me i get the feeling that they're either unfriendly or just pissed off because they arent the only guy in town with a Z.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 07:08 AM
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I think the Z has got a special appeal that the regular cars dont have, going back to when it first came out. You can't say its nothing special or you woulda just bought a comparable priced car like a camry or something(base model price)..people say cars are'nt important but they ARE to those that have any kind of choice in what they will drive, and why billions are spent on styling and research into their design.

Just to analyise your comment there " - there are more important things in life than how many looks (jealous, admiring, or otherwise) " --I dont buy that one, there are more importnt things in life but you picked a VERY eye catching vehicle that will get you attention and looks so somewhere along the line you must have considered that, but Im just trying to say is we all make our choices and I dont think if your gonna wave at someone you should expect anything back. Its not necassarily them being snobby if they dont react. Im very uncomfy with looking over at other drivers on the road (will they think I want to race? fight? what!) but I did look over at another Z owner who pulled up next to me and gave a kinda nervous "thumbs up" I dont even know why I did it, but he responded in kind and it was a rush!. Another instance I was just on the freeway and a car goes by me and I see a hand out the window with a "thumbs up" sign which made me smile. I doubt you'd ever get that reaction driving a normal Accord right!!

I think its the same kinda thing when people support a team, its a form of that- brand loyality?Beloning to a group? Its a human need for alot of us. Someone psycho analyise this!

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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by BDM
Maybe I'm just not the friendly sort,
heh...see my last point above


I just don't feel the need to visually search out other people driving the same car, slow down, look their car over, catch their attention, and exchange silent pleasantries from inside our vehicles.
And i dont think a single post in this thread suggests that we do that either.


But in either case, waving at strangers in a situation where it is impossible to actually interact with each other from inside our cozy little fishbowls isn't a priority.
That's fine. But if someone waves at you then why not wave back?

It's called common courtesy people. If everyone did it (not waving at other Z drivers but the courtesy thing) this world would be a better place, seriously.

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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by dchengmd
Personally, I think the attitude that "I drive a Z, I belong to an exclusive club with a secret handshake that all fellow Z drivers must acknowledge" is sort of lame.
I agree, like those freaks who belong to internet car forums with hours and hours of content dedicated to one car where people talk about it endlessly.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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Awhile back, I pulled into a Circuit City to pick up a CD. An older gentleman (in his 50's) walked up to to me. He pointed to his silver 350Z parked a couple of rows down. He complimented me on my Z and said that he originally had thought about getting the super black color that I had.

We took a few minutes to talk about how much we enjoyed the car. He told me how he had worked hard all his life and always wanted a sportscar and now he was finally able to get one.

After a few more minutes of talking, I shook his hand and told him that it was grat meeting him. As I made the walk into Circuit City, I almost forgot about the CD that I was there to pick up. I couldn't help but think about how cool this older guy was AND how lucky I was to have my Z now...

I think that this is what Z comradeship is all about. It's not about being part of an exclusive club-- it's about sharing our love for the car with others like ourselves. It's this "club" that I'm glad to be a part of...
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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I cant believe that people think waving is dorky, silly, stupid, uncool, etc? Wow, where did you guys grow up, and who raised you? If someone waves or smiles at me, I am sure to acknowledge them, why be stubborn and not wave or smile back? What are you gaining by ignoring them? If you turn your head you have exerted effort, why not use that effort to raise your hand?

People dont do this in civics cause it just isnt the same. Jeep owners do it too. There is a certain commoradere that people driving "cult cars" share, for lack of a better term.

I dont know about you, but I feel connected to other Z drivers in the fact they have something in common with me. Albeit, some of you are not kind enough to acknowledge someone waving at you.

I hope that all of you start waving back, trust me, it wont hurt you.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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As for RJ_Vancouver's polite little response: first of all, I'd like to see your proof that 'half' of the people here in LA carry guns

Hey, I watch COPS, and LAPD. There`s your proof you guys all carry guns. It was just a joke.
Do you get a strike too for calling me a dork?
I`m not to worried about that. I`ve never been one to resort to name calling or burning on people on any thread.
I guess in Canada, we think all Americans carry a gun the way that a lot of Americans think in Canada we all drink beer and watch hockey and say "Eh" or "aboot"

Maybe I should start a new thread, "Who carries a gun in there car?"

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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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Maybe you guys don't realize that only a small percentage of Z owners are actually enthusiasts. That couple seconds after you wave to the other driver is probably spent by them trying to figure out if they've met you somewhere before. They might not even realize that you're waving because you have the same car.

How about this...Does the same thing happen when you pull up to a light next to another Z and say "nice car"? Do they ignore you then? Probably not because they immediately realize exactly who you are talking to and why.

I know you Z guys don't think the G (which I have) gets any looks, but sometimes it gets a little uncomfortable to me. I didn't buy the car for attention from others. People in all kinds of cars just stare at times. It takes me a minute to figure out if it's the car, me, or just a blank stare. I often get a few words from complete strangers at gas stations. I just smile and say thanks.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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How about this...Does the same thing happen when you pull up to a light next to another Z and say "nice car"? Do they ignore you then? Probably not because they immediately realize exactly who you are talking to and why.

I know you Z guys don't think the G (which I have) gets any looks, but sometimes it gets a little uncomfortable to me. I didn't buy the car for attention from others. People in all kinds of cars just stare at times. It takes me a minute to figure out if it's the car, me, or just a blank stare. I often get a few words from complete strangers at gas stations. I just smile and say thanks. [/B][/QUOTE]

I see your point. When I bought my Z, I wasn`t really expecting the attention that it gets. It is a little uncomfortable at times.
I`m not really the "showy", driving by the clubs, parking in front of Starbucks type. I guess maybe I should not have asumed that when people didn`t nod or wave they were being snobby.

I didnt think this thread would cause so much friction!

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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by 416Tdot350Z
Waving to another Z owner is in a way acknowledging that we are both enthusiasts (as mentioned by Primaltone).

Just like when i'm walking my Siberian Husky and someone else walking a Siberian Husky walks by then I always try to strike up a conversation with them or at least acknoledge them in some way (a simple nod or smile).
My point is, the person you're waving to isn't necessarily an 'enthusiast' just because you happen to be driving the same car. People buy their cars for their own reasons and to assume that just because someone driving a Z makes them an enthusiast isn't correct.

The bottom line is, you can be an enthusiast about pretty much anything in the world, from clothes to barbie dolls to books to whatever, you name it. But like in my example, just because you may be crazy about a particular clothing brand doesn't make everyone else wearing it a huge fan like you. And if you approach everyone wearing the same clothes waving, giving compliments, and/or thumbs up, you may get some acknowledgments but you're also going to get some strange looks or some may just outright ignore you. That doesn't make them a snob.

Well it's called being polite. If someone says hi then you say hi back. If someone gives you a thumbs up then you acknowlege it. It's quite simple really. If you ignore them then dont you consider that as being rude?
I don't consider it rude to not respond to a complete stranger coming (or driving) up to me and giving a thumbs up, because honestly I have no idea exactly what he's giving me a thumbs up for. Maybe it's because of the car I'm driving, or the gum I'm chewing, or the big splotch of bird poop on my rear window. But just because he wants to compliment me for something doesn't obligate me to be gracious.

Maybe it's just me but when I give someone a thumbs up/wave/whatever and they are blatantly ignoring me i get the feeling that they're either unfriendly or just pissed off because they arent the only guy in town with a Z.
Some people probably are like that, but some people probably also bought their Zs for a different reason and aren't as big rabid fans as you are, so they don't think the car they're driving is a big deal. And some certainly didn't buy their cars so they could get looks and fish for compliments from every stranger they see on the street. To call people who don't acknowledge your attempt to grab their attention 'snobs' comes from the same attitude that assumes people who buy Zs are all enthusiasts. It just isn't true.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by R.J._Vancouver
Do you get a strike too for calling me a dork?
I wasn't calling YOU a dork. Try going back to my first post and reading more carefully. I was calling that behavior dorky.

I`m not to worried about that. I`ve never been one to resort to name calling or burning on people on any thread.
You picked a nice thread to start doing it with your 'dumbass' comment, huh?

[QUOTE]I guess in Canada, we think all Americans carry a gun the way that a lot of Americans think in Canada we all drink beer and watch hockey and say "Eh" or "aboot" [B]
So what you're saying is that because Americans like to perpetuate stereotypes, Canadians should too. OK.

Maybe I should start a new thread, "Who carries a gun in there car?"
Maybe you should. And I'm pretty sure your poll would indicate that much less than 50% of the people here carry guns in their car.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by ranger5oh
I cant believe that people think waving is dorky, silly, stupid, uncool, etc? Wow, where did you guys grow up, and who raised you? If someone waves or smiles at me, I am sure to acknowledge them, why be stubborn and not wave or smile back? What are you gaining by ignoring them? If you turn your head you have exerted effort, why not use that effort to raise your hand?
Oh please. Don't start telling everyone to start waving back just because YOU think it's appropriate and it's a nice thing to do.

I'm having a hard time understanding why some people here get so bent out of shape because somebody didn't acknowledge them. Is your ego that fragile that you have to get upset someone didn't respond to your call for attention?

People dont do this in civics cause it just isnt the same. Jeep owners do it too. There is a certain commoradere that people driving "cult cars" share, for lack of a better term.
Ah, so it DOES go back to the 'exclusive club member' attitude. Guess what, I didn't buy my Z to be a comrade/member of some imaginary club in your mind, so whether I choose to wave, give a thumbs up back to you, or ignore you is completely my perogative.

'People don't do this in civics cause it just isnt the same'? What if I'm some huge rabid Civic fan and I believe that all Civic owners share some kind of comraderie just because they bought a Civic?


I dont know about you, but I feel connected to other Z drivers in the fact they have something in common with me. Albeit, some of you are not kind enough to acknowledge someone waving at you.
As I've mentioned before, it's not an issue of politeness. I personally don't like be lumped into some kind of category just because I happen to have purchased the same car (or anything else) you did. You can use this reasoning with pretty much anything. Next time you're grocery shopping and bump into someone buying the same breakfast cereal as you are, make sure you give them a wave and a thumbs up and see how they react.

I hope that all of you start waving back, trust me, it wont hurt you.
And I hope that all of you who wave don't get their panties in a bind and start whining and complaining here or anywhere else about how all the people who don't acknowledge your wave are snobs or rude or a-holes. Trust me, it won't hurt you if you don't get a wave back.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Well this sure is an interesting thread!

My comment is; what is “secret handshake that all fellow Z drivers must acknowledge" ?

Now I’m PO because I don’t know it I feel like such the ‘outsider’.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by marhot
Well this sure is an interesting thread!

My comment is; what is “secret handshake that all fellow Z drivers must acknowledge" ?

Now I’m PO because I don’t know it I feel like such the ‘outsider’.
I'm not sure either, but I think it involves waving and/or a thumbs up sign...
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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one things for sure orlando Z owners dont wave/nod/look or some other shiet at each other... bunch of snobbs

i wonder how the Z fest this comming weekend gonna be lol
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by dchengmd
I'm not sure either, but I think it involves waving and/or a thumbs up sign...
Well, in a way you are part of some club, you are a member of this site
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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haha everyone relax on dchengmd, hes got his opinion and this doesnt need to be another flame thread, thats what the drag racing forum is there for. But i also throw the peace sign up to fellow Z owners because first, I am already looking at their car being that I think its one of the most beautiful cars on the road., and second because although people buy cars for different reasons the attributes of this car cater to the enthusiast more than the over 40 non-enthusiast. Just on the way home from work I passed a middle aged guy in a suit driving a black Z roadster, and he waved. Count to think of it, everyone in a Z ive passed has waved except for one.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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When I come upon another Z we're usually going in opposite directions. I'm too busy checking out the car instead of the driver... so if I do get a wave I probably would not notice it and therefore would not return the wave. Not being a snob, just a Z fanatic who enjoys seeing other Z's.
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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I agree with MikeW. When I'm driving around town lord knows all the waves I get in the Z, but I either simply don't see them because I tend to try and avoid eye contact with the other drivers and just check out their cars instead or my tinted windows don't let me see them.. .
Am I snobby just because of this?
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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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There's nothing wrong with a little friendly camaradarie amongst
people. Last week I was driving to work in my Silverstone Z,
in a grouchy mood when I catch another Silverstone in my rear view- the guy pulls next to me and gives me the thumbs up-
It was cool, I obviously returned the gesture, and damn if
it didn't bring a smile to my face and put me in in good mood!!
To each his own I guess.
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