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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by zillinois
Whether you like it or not, people will perceive you as rude if you do not wave. IMHO, it is rude if somebody waves at you and you ignore them. A car has nothing to do with it.
Yes, I would agree with you here.

Now, I guess the real question is whether or not I should care if someone I don't know thinks I'm being rude. After thinking about it for 0.045 seconds, I've decided that I don't.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by metasystem
"... Go ahead and wave to anyone you want to. Just don't get all freaked out because people don't return the favor."

Hey, small world!
A while back I was driving down the freeway in L.A. and this nympho lady that I picked up in a grocery store is giving me a hummer... I could barely concentrate. Anyway I pull up alongside this Z and I wave at the guy and say, "nice car!" but the guy just totally ignores me and acts like I'm not there. The lady looks up and then quickly ducks back down, saying "Oh my God, that's my husband! Thank God he didn't look!"

So I slow down and let the guy pass me and the licence plate on the Z says "dchengmd"




...okay, relax... I'm just poking some fun!
Good one! Except - that's not what my license plate says!
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Hey RJ, i'm in Vancouver too. Are the people you wave to hongers/chinese? (I'm allowed to ask, im chinese myself ). When I drive the daily driver, my new Mini cooper, i find that the people who are most likely not to wave are chinese people?? Just an observation. I find that most people are probably too focused on their drivng to notice nehow.

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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by Mrtemp
Hey RJ, i'm in Vancouver too. Are the people you wave to hongers/chinese? (I'm allowed to ask, im chinese myself ). When I drive the daily driver, my new Mini cooper, i find that the people who are most likely not to wave are chinese people?? Just an observation. I find that most people are probably too focused on their drivng to notice nehow.

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Hey Jon,
It`s usually older people that don`t wave or nod or whatever. Younger drivers usually nod, or the thumbs up.
Do you know what happened to nissan350.ca ? The Canadian 350Z site? seems to have gone down.


I did`nt realize I was going to start such a firestorm with this thread!
Like Rodney King said, "Can`t we all just get along?"
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Really? I would've thought it would be the other way around because the older people would recognize and respect the heritage the Zed has? Yeah, I don't know what happened to the site either?
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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I've had my Z for about 9 months now, and I don't bother even trying to waive at other Z drivers anymore. Not once did anyone waive back. Just kinda disapointing.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by 416Tdot350Z
What a joke

Since when did being FRIENDLY become lame? No wonder society today is becoming what it is

Waving to another Z driver is just a way of saying "hi, i like your car". When did a simple friendly wave become a "secret handshake"??? LMAO
Absolutely...I enjoy the smiles I get from other owners and vice versa. But I do meet the ones who think they're better than me....even though we do drive the sme machine. Go figure? Some people are just sad....
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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"Z-Z newbie (from Washington) wrote:

I've had my Z for about 9 months now, and I don't bother even trying to waive at other Z drivers anymore. Not once did anyone waive back. Just kinda disapointing."

Dang! Remind me not drive Washington!
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by dchengmd
Yes, I would agree with you here.

Now, I guess the real question is whether or not I should care if someone I don't know thinks I'm being rude. After thinking about it for 0.045 seconds, I've decided that I don't.
Paging Dr. Cheng, paging Dr. Cheng, please pull the stick out of your azz! Loosen up bro! Life is fun. If you run around thinking your better than everyone else and don't care what they think (even if you are), you will never have any fun. I'd rather be happy and have fun than be right. Which you probably are. But so what,you're the only one who cares. You've spent too much time in school working your brain. I order you to go to a bar tonight and drink too much. You've developed so many brain cells in med school that you need to get rid of some, stat!

This message is not meant in a mean spirited way Cheng. You have worked hard in your life to achieve great things. Now if you are friendly with people they will want to share it with you.


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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Anyone who says people who buy this car are not enthusiasts, are kidding themselves. This car has been out less than 2 years. People dont buy brand new cars if they havent been waiting for it! Come on... who are you kidding. Also, everyone on this site is an enthusiast, or you wouldnt be on this site.

dchengmd... you are just not a nice person. Who says they dont care if strangers think they are rude? Keep thinking that way, maybe people will start to not care about your property cause they dont know you, maybe they will key your car, maybe take a dump on your hood... who cares.. they dont know you. If you think it is rude, who cares, you dont know them. Lets just all start disrespecting everyone! Woohoo, great world!

Anyway, this is extreme I know.. but it is to make a point.

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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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Can a former Z owner get in on some wave action?
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by ranger5oh
Anyone who says people who buy this car are not enthusiasts, are kidding themselves. This car has been out less than 2 years. People dont buy brand new cars if they havent been waiting for it! Come on... who are you kidding. Also, everyone on this site is an enthusiast, or you wouldnt be on this site.
OK, this post takes the cake. I'm done with you after this post because I refuse to stoop down to the idiocy of your reasoning.

Give me a break. Now you're just lumping every person who buys a new Z into some kind of arbitrary category. How about this - instead of making blanket statement, why don't you prove that every person who buys this car is an enthusiast. And I mean EVERY one.

dchengmd... you are just not a nice person. Who says they dont care if strangers think they are rude? Keep thinking that way, maybe people will start to not care about your property cause they dont know you, maybe they will key your car, maybe take a dump on your hood... who cares.. they dont know you. If you think it is rude, who cares, you dont know them. Lets just all start disrespecting everyone! Woohoo, great world!
Please. Your analogy makes absolutely no sense at all. You're comparing someone who doesn't acknowledge you to actually doing physical damage to your car? How moronic.

Guess what - you don't know me, and I certainly am not interested in getting to know you better. You do NOT know my reasons for buying the car I drive, or anything else I buy for that matter, so don't even TRY to assume you know what I'm thinking or what my personal reasons are for doing anything. Let me guess - you're also one of those people who believe that all African American people like eating fried chicken and watermelons just because they have dark skin, right?

You know, if you want to draw the conclusion that I'm not a nice person just because I choose not to acknowledge people trying to get my attention, AND you equate that to me keying your car or taking a dump on your hood, then I've got nothing more to say to you. There's a difference, and the difference is I am not ACTIVELY disrespecting you if I choose not to wave back at you. Now, if you waved at me and I chose to get out of my car with a bat and bashed in your windshield, THEN your analogy works. YOU are the one who doesn't get it, not me.

Geez, some people. You really amuse me. I can't believe that there are actually people like you who are so full of themselves that anyone not giving you the attention you're craving automatically makes them some kind of Hitler. Oh, wait - you've been doing nothing but categorizing people all along.

Anyway, this is extreme I know.. but it is to make a point.
Not extreme, but extremely DUMB, and pointless. You think I'm not a nice person? Fine, believe what you like. Does your opinion affect me in any way in my life on or off this forum? Not at all.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by zillinois
Paging Dr. Cheng, paging Dr. Cheng, please pull the stick out of your azz! Loosen up bro! Life is fun. If you run around thinking your better than everyone else and don't care what they think (even if you are), you will never have any fun. I'd rather be happy and have fun than be right. Which you probably are. But so what,you're the only one who cares. You've spent too much time in school working your brain. I order you to go to a bar tonight and drink too much. You've developed so many brain cells in med school that you need to get rid of some, stat!

This message is not meant in a mean spirited way Cheng. You have worked hard in your life to achieve great things. Now if you are friendly with people they will want to share it with you.


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Zillinois...I'm not taking your post in any bad way, but I'd like to point out one thing:

Nowhere in this thread did I say I thought I was better than anyone else. Why people assume this is beyond me. My point is, just because people don't acknowledge your waves/smiles/honking/whatever doesn't automatically make them a snob, or a jerk, or a homosexual, or whatever, as much as you'd like to believe it.

So I choose not to wave back at people. I still don't see the point or necessity of waving at people just because they happen to be driving the same car as I do. I also don't see why some people here get so damn offended that they have to come on this forum and write posts about "so-and-so didn't wave back at me, what an a-hole, he/she doesn't deserve to drive the Z, etc." And you can't deny that there are quite a few posts here that say exactly that.

Some of the other people here should take your advice - lighten up! So somebody didn't wave back at you. Seriously, if that's the worst thing that's happened to you all day (and from the tone of some of the posts here, it appears that it is), consider yourself lucky. Accept it and move on.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by dchengmd
Zillinois...I'm not taking your post in any bad way, but I'd like to point out one thing:

Nowhere in this thread did I say I thought I was better than anyone else. Why people assume this is beyond me. My point is, just because people don't acknowledge your waves/smiles/honking/whatever doesn't automatically make them a snob, or a jerk, or a homosexual, or whatever, as much as you'd like to believe it.
When you say you don't care how someone interprets your actions or what they think of you, it is hard for others not to interpret it as meaning that you think you are better or don't give a rats azz about others. That's why they get mad. Maybe you do care greatly about others and are a terrific person, its just no one is going to stick around to find out.

Sometimes I don't see people or am preoccupied and have had people come up to me later and say, "hey! I waved at you yesterday and you just drove by." I usually apologize profusely. And say that I didn't see them. I'm just trying to think what mindset I'd have to have to think to say, "I think its dorky or pointless to wave at people from my car." The point is to acknowledge another human. When you don't acknowledge another person, it is often interpreted as a sign of rejection.


So I choose not to wave back at people. I still don't see the point or necessity of waving at people just because they happen to be driving the same car as I do. I also don't see why some people here get so damn offended that they have to come on this forum and write posts about "so-and-so didn't wave back at me, what an a-hole, he/she doesn't deserve to drive the Z, etc." And you can't deny that there are quite a few posts here that say exactly that.
I believe I have explained why people get mad in the above reply. Those people feel rejected by you. That's why they are mad. I don't have a problem with rejection, I worked in medical sales, selling to doctors, if you remember. I have been rejected 1000's of times. So, I don't have a problem with people not waving, I just think more highly of people who do.



Some of the other people here should take your advice - lighten up! So somebody didn't wave back at you. Seriously, if that's the worst thing that's happened to you all day (and from the tone of some of the posts here, it appears that it is), consider yourself lucky. Accept it and move on.
When you hurt someone's feelings, the correct response is to say I'm sorry. The incorrect response is to say, you're lucky a piano didn't fall on your head today. See, my behavior is not so bad after all. That's how you come across to people. I'm not saying that's how you are, just how you come across. I'm from the Midwest and most people here wave, so it is very interesting to see another point of view. He77, I've had people wave me down and pull me over to look at my car. I think there might be some cultural differences going. Do the other interns and doctors wave at each other where you work or in school?

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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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If I were a gum chewing, designer clothes wearing, fried chicken eating, watermelon seed spitting, cigar smoking, African American Jewish homosexual named Hitler, son of Rodney King, who liked to go poo on people's cars,

would you still wave at me?




It's like one of those Mad-Libs picking out pieces of your arguments, that's about how much sense this thread makes! Both sides have valid opinions, leave it at that. I don't really see how you can even call it a debate. The point is...there is no point.

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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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waving amongst Z owners has been a tradition since the '70s. With the new Z, I noticed a change in this. Probably due to the decrease in price + stylish looks = different breed of owners (read: first time z owners)
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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When you hurt someone's feelings, the correct response is to say I'm sorry. The incorrect response is to say, you're lucky a piano didn't fall on your head today. See, my behavior is not so bad after all. That's how you come across to people. I'm not saying that's how you are, just how you come across. I'm from the Midwest and most people here wave, so it is very interesting to see another point of view. He77, I've had people wave me down and pull me over to look at my car. I think there might be some cultural differences going. Do the other interns and doctors wave at each other where you work or in school?
Zillinois, I appreciate where you're coming from, and honestly I have to say that your response was one of the most coherent in this thread so far. And it certainly was more intelligent than the other guy who equated this to vandalizing someone's car.

If that's how I come across, well, that's life I guess. I can accept it because honestly, it really makes no difference in my life. Taking your example, if someone were to come up to me and say "hey, I waved at you yesterday and you didn't say anything", I wouldn't tell them to bug off, give him the finger, or tell him I thought it was stupid. In fact, all I'd probably do is shrug and say "you did? Oh, OK...thanks." I'm not in the habit of talking to total strangers about my car or any of my other possessions, and I'm not about to start. I guess the reason is because I don't like people assuming certain things about me just because I drive a certain car, am of a certain race, etc. Stereotypes are stereotypes, whether they connote good or bad things. I suppose that's where the cultural difference is.

To answer your question - no, other interns, doctors, and students don't wave at each other where I work, unless they know each other. I also can't think of any other situations I've been in where a fellow physician I don't know walked or drove up to me and waved just because I'm a doctor.

Thanks for the well thought out reply, though. Yours actually gave me something to think about.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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ok dchengmd and all other non-wavers, maybe you should sell your Z to a waver so people don't think us Z owners are snobby ******. What are you non-wavers afraid of? Sprained wrists? Twisted necks? Maybe occasionally smacking your hand agaisnst the drivers side window? City life has got you all so up tight. Relax and enjoy a little 350 COMRODDERZ
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Jesse350z
ok dchengmd and all other non-wavers, maybe you should sell your Z to a waver so people don't think us Z owners are snobby ******. What are you non-wavers afraid of? Sprained wrists? Twisted necks? Maybe occasionally smacking your hand agaisnst the drivers side window? City life has got you all so up tight. Relax and enjoy a little 350 COMRODDERZ
Yeah, that's really going to happen. I'm going to sell my Z because you're telling me to. In other words, you're saying only certain types of people should be able to own/drive Zs.

That really makes sense. The last time I checked, you didn't need to sign a statement when you purchased the car saying you had to wave to everyone who waved at you.

You know what? I'm going to keep my car and drive it just to spite YOU. Makes about as much sense as your post above.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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How do you even drive your Nissan with that stick up your butt. Can you still reach the pedals? I think it's great that you're sticking up for the non wavers. Keep up the good work. Sounds like your really enjoying Life in your Z.
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