This thread really is stupid. I am going to turn off notifications of new updates.

You non-wavers are making yourselves sound like little kids running up to their mothers and saying "mommy, mommy that other Z owner did not wave back at me."

For the record I have waved back at other drivers that have waved at me, when I see them wave. But I don't drive around looking at every driver to see if they wave at me. I am not that vain.

I'm done

 

I've had two G drivers be absolutely rude and kinda role their eyes at me. I think it has something to do with me being young. Im 23 but I can easily pass for 19.

No probs on the other hand with Z drivers. Head nods and always checking out each others cars.

 

dcheng-"Does your opinion affect me in any way in my life on or off this forum? Not at all."

Obviously it affected you in some way as you took the time to write a long reply to his and several other statements. You almost come off as an insecure highschooler with a chip on your shoulder afraid of rejection. Im not saying you are but you come off that way. I would wave back because it is polite. I REALLY am against the whole wave thing. It seems very porsche and corvette. Just because the Z is a sportscar with a history.. doesnt mean we are all connected in some way as motorheads. But if any of you waved to me I would wave back. You dont jsut ignore people, it implies you placing yourself "above them." Something people do whom are afraid to be placed below them(hence the insecure highschooler comments).
Drcheng you not acknowledging people makes you snobbish. Please dont be so typical as a Doctor. The phase of Doctors being above people is over, we are not as dependant of you as a society. On top of that, insurance RUINED any presdigious weathy status Doctors once held.
It could just be from the way you were brought up that you do not understand acknowledging another person is important, even if you do not agree with their reason for initially acknowledging you. Asians are weird in this sense.. its absolutely true.. If you arent snobby or insecure.. its just your different upbringing. Im not

 

(cont.) explaining myself.. but im not out of line trust me.

I agree with you on the waves being unecessary and the enthusiasm NOT needing to be present in all Z owners. Its a great car to most.. to some its way more then that. This whole overanalyzing is weird even though I was sucked into it. I could very easily be a snob and I am the first person to put everybody on equal levels. Wave to be in your old minivan and ill give you a wave back.. a confused one at that..

 

I apologize for not being the picture of warmth and charm that you are.

on this whole thread. I'm going the way of zpylot and "unsubscribing".

 

 

No, don't do that. Just don't bother replying to threads you think are below you, that's all. I got razzed on about being Canadian, and being told I have no opinons that matter here, as everyone is mostly American. It piszed me off, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. Just think that everyone is entiled to an opinion, as childish as it may seem. Don't miss out on everything else, just because of someone else......most of us are pretty nice I think!

 

I am, actually. This year is going great so far, about to take a new high-paying job, having a baby in August, and my '04 Z runs great.

Now, until you can actually come up with something coherent to discuss instead of talking about dumb sticks in people's orifices, you're welcome to PM me. Quit wasting other people's time with your lame posts.

 

Pretty sad Jesse350Z....you don't paint a pretty picture of yourself talking like that....

 

Ha, look who's talking. So what you're saying is that I'm acting just like all the people here complaining that they're not getting their due props for waving at people they don't know.

I won't even qualify this BS above with a response. If you want to debate, then debate. But don't bring my profession into this discussion.

Go ahead and show me why it's so important I wave back to you. Exactly how is your life impacted by it?

Actually, you know what? Don't bother. I've made my position clear, and for the most part I think the people who disagree with me understand where I'm coming from, and choose to continue to disagree with me. This thread has pretty much degraded to personal attacks and irrelevant comments on what I do for a living, which is an indication to me that there's no further need for more discussion of the matter at hand. That's fine. The bottom line is, I won't change your opinion on the matter, and you won't change mine.

I respect all of your opinions, and I'm certainly not encouraging you to stop whatever you do to stroke your egos or make yourself happy. Just try to be a little more mature and don't take it so personally when you think someone's dissing you just because they don't wave back at you. I'm done with this (tiresome) thread.

People getting upset because somebody didn't wave back at them. Man, if it wasn't so pitiful it'd be funny.

 

Yikes, people. GET OVER IT ALREADY! Are we not all adults here? Doesn't seem that way....Move on, tomorrow is another day, to wave or not wave at another Z. Aren't there bigger problems in the world right now? Wow....

 

I think that theres one thing thats common between Z owners is that we're all grateful to be Z owners and we all love our Zs so much. I sorta feel like as if all Z owners are part of a big family whos there to help and admire each others cars. I wouldnt mind to give a thumbs up if someone waved at me, but I wouldnt start it cause Id sorta feel weird.

 

this is endless

people leave him alone... he wont wave back for shietz now lets go wave at somebody else

 

I d know I currently drive a focus, and if I wind up stopped next to one at a stop light usually someone will give the other person a smile or a nod or something. I people don’t chase each other down to give a nod of approval, there is just to many foci here to do that, but if you happen to wind up next to each other you give a nod of approval. It has nothing to do with the person driving the car, it could be anyone from a teenager to a 40 year old women and you usually get a nod back.

When I park my car in a parking lot, and later come out. I usually find a focus parked next to me. If I see a focus in a parking lot with an open space next to it I often park next to it. It almost as if people feel safe parking next to people with the same car because you will respect it more that way and not bash your door into mine.

If I am ever parked, at a gas station, or anything next to another person with a focus usually one of the other people strike up a conversation. Even if they don’t feel like sticking around for a long time, they acknowledge you! My even my friends are like “WTF is with focus owners”

In fact I actually met one of my bosses, before he was my boss at a car wash one time. We exchanged talked about our cars, and how we liked them. And went on our way. A year later I got a job working with him and we were trying to figure out where the hell we met before. Then one day walking out to the parking lot when we saw each others cars it clicked.

My best friend is a mustang owner (he also had a svt focus), and his car is the same way, if he winds up along another mustang owner they usually give a “nod of approval” and if you wind up a at light next to each other, at the pumps, are in a parking lot, people usually say something to each other.

Oh and I don’t even live in a remote small time town either, I live outside NYC, in an area notorious for people being bad drivers, full or road rage, and all around ********. I have had many people flip me the bird, deliberately try to kill me, run me off the road, or threaten my life (no I’m not kidding, I have been in fear for my life wile driving many times. People have chased me at 90mph down winding roads, deliberately ran off the highway at 75mph down a hill into trees/bushes, and reach down under there seats for “something” wile threatening me etc… ) Funny though no one has ever done that to me wile driving the same car I have.

A jester of kindness can go a long way in making a hell drive a little more bearable. You can tell it made a difference in someone when they have a pissed of stare and after you give there car a thumbs up they have a smile on there face.

 

I was often taught you should never give something, expecting in return. If you give a wave, don’t always expect a wave back. You should give it out of kindness and that alone should be enough.

If you receive a wave of kindness you are free to accept it, give a gesture in return or completely ignore it. This is a free country and you have the right to express your self, or reframe from expression if you so choose.

One thing to remember in all this is culture. There are no legal expectations to be polite, but there are cultural expectations. If you burp you say “excuse me” when you want something you say “please” when you get what you want you say “thank you.” At a formal dinner you eat with a knife and fork, you don’t bend over and start munching the food off your place with your teeth. If you choose not to follow the standards of the culture you will be perceived as being “rude” because based on that cultures standards, you are.

dchengmd from what I have read you are Asian, you live in LA, and you’re (to be) a doctor. I don’t know enough about the culture in your city, or your background to understand your reasoning, but in my area that behavior would be rude. If I run into someone outside of work/school etc.. and I know they are from the same organization as me (or was in the past) one of us says high. It’s just rude not to acknowledge someone you know here. I think this is why your profession came into this debate, someone asked if you greet people outside of your training, and you said no. That made it appear as the mindset of not acknowledging others is typical among doctors.

Again that’s my culture on the east cost, in the NYC area., you are on opposite sides of the country. Of course I’m also not saying people aren’t rude here, allot of people are, but just because allot of people are rude, doesn’t make it “acceptable.”

So I’m not going to base your behavior on my local cultural standards, for all I know in LA its entirely possible that a friendly wave may falsely be interpreted as a rude hand gesture and a sign of aggression, so it may be better of to not acknowledge any hand gestures at all because of the very volatile local culture.

One thing I hate is people making the assumption that the culture in all other areas is the same, as there own. One example of this (and its car related too) is flashing your headlights. One time I was driving on a parkway here and a car with a California plate was driving along at 65 in the left hand lane, with no traffic in the right lane. When a car comes up behind them they don’t move over I ride behind them for a wile and they don’t move. I put on my left turn signal, and the women still doesn’t move over. I finally give up and just go to pass on the right, and as I do so the driver flips me off and speeds up.
In many states, and I believe California, you can pass on any side of a vehicle on the highway and flashing your headlights is rude. Another person here mentioned that they sometime greet other people by flashing his lights. Here, flashing your lights wile your behind someone is asking the driver to move over to the right to allow you to pass them safely. In this area it is ILLEGAL to pass a car on the right on most roads. In fact there are signs STATING this but out of state people just ignore them.

It’s even funny how in different areas people have official ways to break traffic laws. For example in my neighborhood most people run red lights, but once you go into Manhattan, everyone slams on there brakes for the yellow light, because there people JUMP the light.

So can this whole thread be a cultural misunderstanding?

Oh btw one other thought, sometimes I try to wave down drivers of other cars, and they do ignore me, so I just figure forget it I’ll leave them alone them. The thing is, the reason I was waving them down was I was trying to tell them something was wrong with there car, such as the fuel door being open, or non of there taillights working. I figure the hell with them, if there too stuck up to recognize me trying to get there attention the first time, they can deal with there car getting messed up from there own ignorance.

 

I wans't going to chime in on this but after reading all of this I couldn't help myself. I too have waved at other Z drivers when I came across them on the road. I think my car is an amazing one and I think it's great to see others like mine on the road. I have waved to other Z drivers and have yet to have a fellow z driver not wave or smile back.

As far as dchengmd goes, he is simply playing devil's advocate. I have a brother in law that does this just for pure fun. I have seen this type of person time and time again and it's nothing that a good foot in the **** (sorry doc for the orifice reference) to help them find their wave or smile.

As for waving to someone and not being waved back at? Who cares, the person who doesn't wave back at me is the dink in my book and I think nothing more of it, they are the ones who are truly missing out in life not me.

Devil's advocates are such pains in the aZZes. OOPS there goes another orifice reference.

Time to go and take my anger management class ... Must resist the temptation to stomp and whipe out stupid arrogant snobby people.

WOOSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAA

Wipe them out... all of them......

WOOSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAA

 

If you're looking for comedy, look no further than this thread. It's FREE even!!!

 

I've had about three occasions (one in Houston, two in St. Louis) where other new Z owners acted like snobs. I didn't go out of my way to acknowlege them with anything other than a nod and then they just peeled off.

I'd rather accentuate the positive like on three separate occasions where I raced: a G35, a350Z and another 350Z down I-64/40 towards the Mississippi (top speeds of 108mph, 95mph and 100mph) Each time, the other driver and I just raced down the highway and when one of us had to go, a thumbs up or nod of approval and a nice laugh was exchanged. I don't think we think we are in a snobby Z club, we just treated ourselves with a nice piece of machinery that happens to look good and go fast. Nothing more, nothing less.

(and I'm done with the highway racing BTW)

 

Cheng, I've milled through most of the posts and i'm left wondering why you are wasting your time rebutting even half of these arguments? Your logic is clearly superior, but you come across as though you are infallible and uncontradictory in nature. But that's just my opinion of how you come across. Having read all of your posts, I do realize that you do not necessarily think you are infallible.

Another small question, but why did you decide to pick dchengmd as a screen name, considering you do not like to be stereotyped? Why is the "md" in your name? Perhaps you seek recognition? Maybe not, but I'm just asking.

 

You are overanalyzing the CA driver. The fact is, many drivers here are rude and/or clueless. While it is technically legal to pass on the right (just not on the shoulder), it is very dangerous and is discouraged in all drivers training courses. I've had many people come zooming out from an on-ramp, across three lanes of traffic, only to then hang out in the fast lane going less than the speed limit. I find that on two lane mountain roads, the locals are always very courteous about using turnouts, while vacationers totally ignore them no matter how many cars are stacked up behind them. Sometimes, I think people feel that they own the road, and that they don't need to be courteous to others.

You should feel lucky that she didn't pull out a gun and start blasting away!

-D'oh!