Attn: People using the grounding kits.
There must be something to it.. Or not... it's hard to say. Although Nissan Motorsports does have one available now. They sent it over to me to check out and put on my car as well. Part number 24080-ZGNDK list $149.95 forum price $120.00.
Originally posted by SilverstoneZ
I am seriously looking into getting a kit. I have a slightly rough idle and what I have read the grounding kit might help. Are there any cons to getting the kit that I should consider before going out and buying one.
I am seriously looking into getting a kit. I have a slightly rough idle and what I have read the grounding kit might help. Are there any cons to getting the kit that I should consider before going out and buying one.
In my opinion, the money spent on the grounding wires was well worthwhile.
Originally posted by SilverstoneZ
I am seriously looking into getting a kit. I have a slightly rough idle and what I have read the grounding kit might help. Are there any cons to getting the kit that I should consider before going out and buying one.
I am seriously looking into getting a kit. I have a slightly rough idle and what I have read the grounding kit might help. Are there any cons to getting the kit that I should consider before going out and buying one.
o no more off-idle lag
o no more vibration above 5,000 rpm
o quicker throttle response
I noticed these benefits right away. There are some dyno-supported claims of 4-5 bhp and up to 6 lb-ft out there, but few Z drivers would be able to feel such 1-2% gains with conviction. I don't, but that would be icing on the cake anyway.
My DIY grounding setup cost all of $29. You'll never match that return on the dollar any other way.
www.cliffshade.com/350zr/issues.asp#grounding
Originally posted by jam350
I've never heard of a good reason not to ground, nor can I imagine one other than cost. There are certainly plenty of reasons to do it ASAP:
o no more off-idle lag
o no more vibration above 5,000 rpm
o quicker throttle response
I noticed these benefits right away. There are some dyno-supported claims of 4-5 bhp and up to 6 lb-ft out there, but few Z drivers would be able to feel such 1-2% gains with conviction. I don't, but that would be icing on the cake anyway.
My DIY grounding setup cost all of $29. You'll never match that return on the dollar any other way.
www.cliffshade.com/350zr/issues.asp#grounding
I've never heard of a good reason not to ground, nor can I imagine one other than cost. There are certainly plenty of reasons to do it ASAP:
o no more off-idle lag
o no more vibration above 5,000 rpm
o quicker throttle response
I noticed these benefits right away. There are some dyno-supported claims of 4-5 bhp and up to 6 lb-ft out there, but few Z drivers would be able to feel such 1-2% gains with conviction. I don't, but that would be icing on the cake anyway.
My DIY grounding setup cost all of $29. You'll never match that return on the dollar any other way.
www.cliffshade.com/350zr/issues.asp#grounding
There was an article written, and posted on this site somehwere that discussed exactly what difference the grounding kits made on the 350z. They ended up with a few more HP, and some other gains as well. I've never heard any cons about grounding the engine better. As for me, I have one on, and I like it. I did notice better throttle response, but not much else. It's a really easy DIY as well.
Originally posted by x350Zx
Orange kit: www.z-xtreme.com
They have all sorts of colors...a little on the pricey side ($80-$90 or so...) but it sure looks cool, and I'll take the small gains from it.
Originally posted by cedusett
There was an article written, and posted on this site somehwere that discussed exactly what difference the grounding kits made on the 350z. They ended up with a few more HP, and some other gains as well. I've never heard any cons about grounding the engine better. As for me, I have one on, and I like it. I did notice better throttle response, but not much else. It's a really easy DIY as well.
There was an article written, and posted on this site somehwere that discussed exactly what difference the grounding kits made on the 350z. They ended up with a few more HP, and some other gains as well. I've never heard any cons about grounding the engine better. As for me, I have one on, and I like it. I did notice better throttle response, but not much else. It's a really easy DIY as well.
Originally posted by kcobean
So you're claiming that your grounding kit eliminated vibration of 5K rpm????? What kool-aid are you drinking? How exactly do you propose that it's doing that? I'll buy (maybe) the off-idle lag, and possibly the throttle response improvements because those characteristics are directly attributable to variables that the ECU controls, but vibration?
So you're claiming that your grounding kit eliminated vibration of 5K rpm????? What kool-aid are you drinking? How exactly do you propose that it's doing that? I'll buy (maybe) the off-idle lag, and possibly the throttle response improvements because those characteristics are directly attributable to variables that the ECU controls, but vibration?
FYI, it's not necessary to be able to explain one's observations to have confidence in them. I'd guess that you observed the sun to set reliably in the west long before you knew why.
In this case, however, I do have an explanation. First and foremost, grounding improves the signal-to-noise ratios for most if not all engine sensors. If the sensors are delivering more accurate signals to the ECU, it makes sense that the ECU would run a smoother engine with fuel and air flows and valve positions better coordinated with cylinder positions. Done right, the 350Z's ECU-controlled variable valve timing results in an enviably flat torque curve, but it could also add roughness under the control of an ECU working off noisy data, particularly at high RPMs.
I'll have that kool-aid now if you have some.
Here's a link to the article I mentioned before. It's on another 350z forum, so you might have to be registered.
http://www.350zfrenzy.com/forum/show...&threadid=1363
http://www.350zfrenzy.com/forum/show...&threadid=1363
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