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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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I want to understand this better so I figured I'd ask here. My question is, what is the point of going into neutral when double clutching? Why can't you just match revs with the clutch fully depressed and then just it out? How is that really any different then fully depressing the clutch, throwing it in neutral, letting out the clutch, then depressing the clutch in again, match revs and release? What am I missing? It just seems putting it in neutral is a waste of a step.

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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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When the clutch is depressed, you have no input from the engine to the transmission. By letting it out in neutral, the engine brings the internals of the transmission up to speed.

For a more complete explanation, check out this site:

http://www.driversedge.com/dblcltch.htm
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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Sweet, makes total sense now. I need to start practicing this along with heel-toe.

Thanks for info.
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Double clutching is a complete and udder waste of your time, as well as a slow way to downshift. Learn how to heel-tow downshift to really take advantage of the car and what it can do.
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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only reason to double clutch is in a race car with a dog box with no synchros, when you need to downshift in a corner.
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by DavesZ#3
When the clutch is depressed, you have no input from the engine to the transmission. By letting it out in neutral, the engine brings the internals of the transmission up to speed.

For a more complete explanation, check out this site:

http://www.driversedge.com/dblcltch.htm
From what I read that's more of an explanation of rev matching. I thought double clutching is used in cars that have transmissions without synchros. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by SlamMan
From what I read that's more of an explanation of rev matching. I thought double clutching is used in cars that have transmissions without synchros. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
You are correct. From the way I understand it, double clutching is unnecessary in modern trannies with synchros. Rev matching is all you need to worry about.
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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by admorris
Double clutching is a complete and udder waste of your time
I think you mean "utter".
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by jreiter
You are correct. From the way I understand it, double clutching is unnecessary in modern trannies with synchros. Rev matching is all you need to worry about.
yes... and you can use double clutching on an older/broken if you have a worn out synchro to help with the griding. On a modern, well-conditioned car there's no need for it otherwise.
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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I was wondering why SportZMag recommended double clutching on their heel toe method.
So it's not recommended for increasing syncro wear?
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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double clutching is supposed to save the wear on the synchros......especially in highly modifed cars
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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Whoops, I meant decreasing syncro wear
Originally posted by 350ed
So it's not recommended for increasing syncro wear?
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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The only time I double clutch in my Z is when I downshift 2-1 or shift into reverse. Most people don't realize they are supposed to double clutch in those situations... but they wonder why it clunks, grinds or won't go into gear.
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Zpeed Freak
The only time I double clutch in my Z is when I downshift 2-1 or shift into reverse. Most people don't realize they are supposed to double clutch in those situations... but they wonder why it clunks, grinds or won't go into gear.
YES !
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Old Jul 3, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by jreiter
I think you mean "utter".
haha...you are correct. The sad thing is that I actually spelled it right the first time and CHANGED it to "udder".

oh well.
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by mc350z
since we are talking about heel and toe downshifting too. i think the gas and brake for me are too far apart to use the side of my foot i find my self heeling the brake and tapping the gas with the ball of my foot does any one else do it like this. i need more practice though i wanted to practice on my last track day but i was so caught up in the moment i just didnt think about it i found my self with the clutch in more than i should. any body have any good pointers besides just more practice?
You may want to get some driving shoes!

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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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Damn! the olny way I would wear shoes that fugly is if the rest of the world were blind.
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