One Major Downside to HP Numbers -- WE'VE LOST ZISME
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Now I kinda wish the official (unofficial) numbers from the press pack had not been published because through the laws of unintended consequences we have lost ZISME. ZISME has not posted ANYTHING since the "official numbers" were posted, and I'm afraid he won't post anything until Nissan releases official numbers. It seems to me that by posting the "official numbers" we have forced ZISME to stay out of the Z chat rooms. Since he has previously confirmed when numbers are wrong, if he posts anything about other topics, his silence regarding the "official numbers" would be confirming those numbers before Nissan has authorized him to do so. But if he just never posts anything, he might just be out of the office for a while like he has been in the past, and while his silence might IMPLY the numbers are correct, by not posting anything his silence does not CONFIRM the numbers are correct. In the words of Watergate and/or Irancontra by not posting anything he has "plausible deniability." Personally, I would have preferred going forward with 280+ HP and having ZISME respond to other questions, than to "know" the HP and have ZISME stop responding to questions. All well, I guess hindsight is 20-20. (BTW, I am going to post this on the zcar.com as well since we know he monitors that site, maybe -- but unlikely -- this will draw a comment from him.)
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Actually,
Plausible Deniability means that he would not actually know the numbers, but he in fact, does know. There would be nothing plausible about his denial.
What he is doing is called, avoidance.![Wink](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I do agree with you that his silence does not legitimize the "final" numbers...but it does cast a suspicious light. He has been quick in the past to mention if numbers were off...but now, nothing. Very interesting.
Or maybe..I hope not, he was reprimanded for posting information and his bosses have asked him to not post anything further until the press embargo is released.
Plausible Deniability means that he would not actually know the numbers, but he in fact, does know. There would be nothing plausible about his denial.
What he is doing is called, avoidance.
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I do agree with you that his silence does not legitimize the "final" numbers...but it does cast a suspicious light. He has been quick in the past to mention if numbers were off...but now, nothing. Very interesting.
Or maybe..I hope not, he was reprimanded for posting information and his bosses have asked him to not post anything further until the press embargo is released.
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I don't know how quick zisme has been to deny false numbers. I don't beleive he disputed the 300/5.5 that was going around. I think he has gone out of his way to avoid most hp threads for fear of tipping his hand. (how easy would it be to post many false numbers in order to eleminate them and work towards a working range?)
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My God, this is getting ridiculous! I can't imagine why NNA could possibly be freaked out by, what, a couple thousand people *might* know the final specs? I'd bet money that not even HALF of the pre-orders have any clue that these sites even exist, much less the rumors about horsepower numbers.
This is not an attack on you, robbyn, rather just my own dislike of the "oh no, somebody got in trouble" posts we've seen in the last few days. This is not a matter of National Defense. It's just specs for a $30K car that most people don't even know exists! NNA needs to get over themselves. It's not like anyone has reverse-engineered the Z and allowed the competition to get a look at the engine internals.
That's just my opinion. Of course, I *could* be wrong.
This is not an attack on you, robbyn, rather just my own dislike of the "oh no, somebody got in trouble" posts we've seen in the last few days. This is not a matter of National Defense. It's just specs for a $30K car that most people don't even know exists! NNA needs to get over themselves. It's not like anyone has reverse-engineered the Z and allowed the competition to get a look at the engine internals.
That's just my opinion. Of course, I *could* be wrong.
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Originally posted by droidekaus
This is not a matter of National Defense. It's just specs for a $30K car that most people don't even know exists! NNA needs to get over themselves. It's not like anyone has reverse-engineered the Z and allowed the competition to get a look at the engine internals.
That's just my opinion. Of course, I *could* be wrong.
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This is not a matter of National Defense. It's just specs for a $30K car that most people don't even know exists! NNA needs to get over themselves. It's not like anyone has reverse-engineered the Z and allowed the competition to get a look at the engine internals.
That's just my opinion. Of course, I *could* be wrong.
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