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Originally posted by agent_smith
If you could point me to any company that sells a stock car with 300-400 bhp off the showroom in an NA V6 motor, please point me in that direction, as I've obivously been looking into the wrong car.
If you could point me to any company that sells a stock car with 300-400 bhp off the showroom in an NA V6 motor, please point me in that direction, as I've obivously been looking into the wrong car.
Originally posted by Mantis3024
Can someone point a some N/A v6s that are making 300-400hp?? I can't think of one.
Can someone point a some N/A v6s that are making 300-400hp?? I can't think of one.
BMW M3 333hp
BMW M3 CSL 360hp
Porche GT3 380hp
Acura RL 300hp
G35 Coupe 298hp
05 Track 350 300hp
Man there are many more older Porche, Benz, BMW cars that have over 300hp from the factory.
There is 4 for you since you couldn't think of ONE.
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Originally posted by thawk408
NSX 97-current (3.2 v-6 rated at 290 hp and is alittle underrated), 96-99 E36 M3 Euro (3.2 I-6 321hp), E46 M3 (3.2 I-6 rated at 333hp, euro is 343 and CSL is 360), Porsche 911 GT3 (3.6 H-6 380hp), 05 Track Z (3.5 V-6 300hp), Porsche Carrera (depending on what year 300-350), TVR Tuscan (3.6 I-6 350hp) Tuscan S (4.0 I-6 390hp). That is all I can think of right now, there might be more. The NSX iand the Z are the only v-6, but I just added the rest for reference.
NSX 97-current (3.2 v-6 rated at 290 hp and is alittle underrated), 96-99 E36 M3 Euro (3.2 I-6 321hp), E46 M3 (3.2 I-6 rated at 333hp, euro is 343 and CSL is 360), Porsche 911 GT3 (3.6 H-6 380hp), 05 Track Z (3.5 V-6 300hp), Porsche Carrera (depending on what year 300-350), TVR Tuscan (3.6 I-6 350hp) Tuscan S (4.0 I-6 390hp). That is all I can think of right now, there might be more. The NSX iand the Z are the only v-6, but I just added the rest for reference.
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Originally posted by Tattude
BMW M3 333hp
BMW M3 CSL 360hp
Porche GT3 380hp
Acura RL 300hp
G35 Coupe 298hp
05 Track 350 300hp
Man there are many more older Porche, Benz, BMW cars that have over 300hp from the factory.
There is 4 for you since you couldn't think of ONE.
BMW M3 333hp
BMW M3 CSL 360hp
Porche GT3 380hp
Acura RL 300hp
G35 Coupe 298hp
05 Track 350 300hp
Man there are many more older Porche, Benz, BMW cars that have over 300hp from the factory.
There is 4 for you since you couldn't think of ONE.
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Originally posted by Mantis3024
The BMWs and Porsche are I6s not V6s. So far the highest rated v6 engine I can think of is the VQ and thats right around 300. I have yet to see 400 hp n/a v6
The BMWs and Porsche are I6s not V6s. So far the highest rated v6 engine I can think of is the VQ and thats right around 300. I have yet to see 400 hp n/a v6
The new RL motor is 300.
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Not to even mention that the CSL is such a limited production car that it's not even up for consideration, but much of the other cars are just out of the class of a Z. The nearest price point is the regular M3.
I also don't consider just crossing into the 300 range as "300-400 hp." Sans the G35 becuase it is the same VQ motor as the Z, I had already pointed out the M3 motor, and as mentioned most of those motors are I6s and Flat 6s for the Porsche not V6s I'd say your list has dwindled to only be the M3 as an option and the RL. Even the NSX, S, S.Zero and, R cars aren't beyond 300.
I also don't consider just crossing into the 300 range as "300-400 hp." Sans the G35 becuase it is the same VQ motor as the Z, I had already pointed out the M3 motor, and as mentioned most of those motors are I6s and Flat 6s for the Porsche not V6s I'd say your list has dwindled to only be the M3 as an option and the RL. Even the NSX, S, S.Zero and, R cars aren't beyond 300.
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yes, the price of the 97-98 supras dropped down in price significantly. Yet today if the car is clean it will sell for what it sold for new.
Originally posted by thawk408
when they came out I believe they were about $45k, but then after the years fewer and fewer people bought them and they went down to about $40k. Or it could be the other way around....
when they came out I believe they were about $45k, but then after the years fewer and fewer people bought them and they went down to about $40k. Or it could be the other way around....
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yes, the price of the 97-98 supras dropped down in price significantly. Yet today if the car is clean it will sell for what it sold for new.
yes, the price of the 97-98 supras dropped down in price significantly. Yet today if the car is clean it will sell for what it sold for new.
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Originally posted by AxionF117
yes, the price of the 97-98 supras dropped down in price significantly. Yet today if the car is clean it will sell for what it sold for new.
yes, the price of the 97-98 supras dropped down in price significantly. Yet today if the car is clean it will sell for what it sold for new.
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That would be such a nice investment. like 8 years and your car doesn't depreciate. Maybe they should make a movie with the Z. I'd love to sell my 80k miles well-kept Z in 8 years for the price I bought it for. Hell, I'd sell it for a few thousand less. HAHA.
I think the E46 M3, and NSX are the most notable N/A 6 cylinders. Peronally, I like high rev N/A's better than turbos. I think the new Porsche Carrera 3.8L H-6 and the existing Ferrari 3.6 V8 Modena have some of the best engines on the market. The E46 M3 definitely has the best for the money.
I think the E46 M3, and NSX are the most notable N/A 6 cylinders. Peronally, I like high rev N/A's better than turbos. I think the new Porsche Carrera 3.8L H-6 and the existing Ferrari 3.6 V8 Modena have some of the best engines on the market. The E46 M3 definitely has the best for the money.
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The car was priced damn high before the movie, but the movie did help a little. However 1 big difference, less than 12k MKIV supras are in the US that includes NA and TT models. Thats why people are so willing to pay top dollar for a clean supra, because the majority of the supras out there are beaten to **** with high miles and ugly *** bodykits. The low mileage 95 Hardtop TT's (any color) and 97-98 TT 6spd (silver, blue) will get the most money.
Btw I sold my car for the same price that I bought it for 3 years later
Btw I sold my car for the same price that I bought it for 3 years later
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Originally posted by thawk408
Thats why you build the block and boost the turbos
. Then you can mess with a single turbo supra.
Thats why you build the block and boost the turbos
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That may be true, but anyone can change there motors. Im saying on stock internals the supra is a sick car. U spend 2 grand on a supra u can get 500 horse u spend that much on a z u can get about 330 thats a huge difference. The supra is just a better car to mod than the z by far get over it.
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Originally posted by Mantis3024
Im sure this question has been asked many times but what makes the supra so unique?
Im sure this question has been asked many times but what makes the supra so unique?
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My friend has a 95 NA auto supra, but it isnt that quick...I beat him everytime in my 95 2dr legend auto
. But his does handle way better then mine.
My friend has a 95 NA auto supra, but it isnt that quick...I beat him everytime in my 95 2dr legend auto
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That would be such a nice investment. like 8 years and your car doesn't depreciate. Maybe they should make a movie with the Z. I'd love to sell my 80k miles well-kept Z in 8 years for the price I bought it for. Hell, I'd sell it for a few thousand less. HAHA.
I think the E46 M3, and NSX are the most notable N/A 6 cylinders. Peronally, I like high rev N/A's better than turbos. I think the new Porsche Carrera 3.8L H-6 and the existing Ferrari 3.6 V8 Modena have some of the best engines on the market. The E46 M3 definitely has the best for the money.
That would be such a nice investment. like 8 years and your car doesn't depreciate. Maybe they should make a movie with the Z. I'd love to sell my 80k miles well-kept Z in 8 years for the price I bought it for. Hell, I'd sell it for a few thousand less. HAHA.
I think the E46 M3, and NSX are the most notable N/A 6 cylinders. Peronally, I like high rev N/A's better than turbos. I think the new Porsche Carrera 3.8L H-6 and the existing Ferrari 3.6 V8 Modena have some of the best engines on the market. The E46 M3 definitely has the best for the money.
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That may be true, but anyone can change there motors. Im saying on stock internals the supra is a sick car. U spend 2 grand on a supra u can get 500 horse u spend that much on a z u can get about 330 thats a huge difference. The supra is just a better car to mod than the z by far get over it.
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That may be true, but anyone can change there motors. Im saying on stock internals the supra is a sick car. U spend 2 grand on a supra u can get 500 horse u spend that much on a z u can get about 330 thats a huge difference. The supra is just a better car to mod than the z by far get over it.
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Originally posted by 1sick350
Well obviously u dont no the supras potential compared to the cars u just mentioned. M3 is the most expensive to work with next to the ferrarii which is more looks than speed- high proced with not enough power to back it up. The supras were built to be modded and can handle 35psi of boost on stock internals. Lets ee if a bimmer or ferrarii can do taht.
Well obviously u dont no the supras potential compared to the cars u just mentioned. M3 is the most expensive to work with next to the ferrarii which is more looks than speed- high proced with not enough power to back it up. The supras were built to be modded and can handle 35psi of boost on stock internals. Lets ee if a bimmer or ferrarii can do taht.
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Originally posted by 1sick350
The fact that it can hndle boost better than practically any car. on oem parts it can handle 35psi of boost. Guys of 900-1000 horse on stock internals. the z may have looked fast in the race but in reality the supras were faster. SOunds crazy but there are multipe reasons y all te supras that the zin the vid raceed are faster. First off the races were to short and the distance didnt give the supras turbo room to open up. Second off u can see towards the end of the race the supra pulls very hard on the z. Single trubo supra=600-1000 hp tt z=400-500 hp
The fact that it can hndle boost better than practically any car. on oem parts it can handle 35psi of boost. Guys of 900-1000 horse on stock internals. the z may have looked fast in the race but in reality the supras were faster. SOunds crazy but there are multipe reasons y all te supras that the zin the vid raceed are faster. First off the races were to short and the distance didnt give the supras turbo room to open up. Second off u can see towards the end of the race the supra pulls very hard on the z. Single trubo supra=600-1000 hp tt z=400-500 hp
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