g35or350z

I looked at the Ford website and it states they sell about 10-12k mustangs/year = 120-150k mustangs/year. With about 30k Z cars/year in the U.S. there will be about 4 to 5 mustangs per Z in a few years. To me, this sounds like alot. Maybe because I see a mustang here in so-cal every minute or so.

To those who hate the silver color because there are so many of them, well... the Z itself maybe too popular.

In the end, I dont mind. The Z is a great car the the money. If it was going to be any rarer, it would cost more.

Z&Jet-Pilot

Not according to the folks advertising on EBay and some dealers!

Let's see...some of the descriptions read:

Rare...Touring Z in Chrome Silver,
Limited Edition Z (this is a blue one by the way),

You get the drift!!!

I think not, the Z will be about as common as any sports car in this price range, only limited to Nissan's ability to build them!

So while they are rare and limited, better get yours (ugh!!)

nbdyfcnsqnc

I never really understood the anti-popularity argument. Sure there will be lots of them on the road next year, but I'm getting the car to drive it, not to be Batman. If you want to be unique, just get an exotic car, or an Aztec even.

padam07

OH GOD THAT IS FUNNY!

mcduck

I agree with others in that I'm buying this car because of what it is for the price it is offered at. I'll enjoy it whether I'm the only one in town with one or if I see one on every block. The early celebrity status is a bonus of buying early, but was never a requirement for me.

I can believe 120-150K mustangs/year. It also is a good performance value... just of lesser quality craftsmanship, IMO. In my neck of the woods, you can't drive a block without seeing a Mustang of the current generation.

I do, however disagree with this statement. Just counting the current body style, the Mustang has, what, a 7 or 8 year jump on the Z in production? I think '94 was the first year of the current body though I may be mistaken. At 7 years and a low estimate of 120K per year, that's around 840,000 Mustangs on the road. By the end of next year, there will be close to 1 million current bodystyle Mustangs on the road comparted to only 42,000 Zs (if Nissan makes their sales estimate. That's 24 Mustangs for every 350Z you see! The ratio will steadily drop, but it will be a slow decline.

NOW... go out there and see how long you have to drive down the highway to see 24 Mustangs going the other way... that's about how often you will see a 350Z next year!

mcduck

Thought this was an interesting fact, so I pulled it from my post on another thread to share it here. I think we'll be enjoying notoriety with our new Zs beyond the end of next year...

I can believe 120-150K mustangs/year. It also is a good performance value... just of lesser quality craftsmanship, IMO. In my neck of the woods, you can't drive a block without seeing a Mustang of the current generation.

I do, however disagree with this statement. Just counting the current body style, the Mustang has, what, a 7 or 8 year jump on the Z in production? I think '94 was the first year of the current body though I may be mistaken. At 7 years and a low estimate of 120K per year, that's around 840,000 Mustangs on the road. By the end of next year, there will be close to 1 million current bodystyle Mustangs on the road comparted to only 42,000 Zs (if Nissan makes their sales estimate. That's 24 Mustangs for every 350Z you see! The ratio will steadily drop, but it will be a slow decline.

NOW... go out there and see how long you have to drive down the highway to see 24 Mustangs going the other way... that's about how often you will see a 350Z next year!

PistolPete

Ford actually sells more mustangs than that each year. They do seem to be everywhere.


For reference, Chevy sells about 30-35k corvettes each year, which I think is the number of Zs Nissan will be selling. So, at the end of the model year, there will be about the same amount of 2003 350Zs and Corvettes. It will take a few years for the Zs to be common, even at 35k imported per year. The current body style vette has been around since 97, and I only see a couple per day.

I just hope the Lemans Sunset is a first year only color!

Zoro

I don't think the average joe will see them on a daily basis till a couple of years pass.

My neighbors see mine every day, but I have only seen one for a couple of seconds which I believe was a test car a couple months back.

I think by the end of next year they may have 30,000 on the road but after that they only plan on producing 25,000 per year for the US market. So by the end of 2004 there may be 55,000 total.
At that time they might be more plentiful than the S2000 which is a car you still don't see everyday of course there are probably only a little over 30,000 of them if the 10,000 per production rate is accurate.

jesperanza

iTrader: (4)

I thought for 2003 Nissan will be producing:

30K total (or worldwide) and 19k will be coming to the US

and for future years: 42K total (30K US).

I've seen and heard a lot of numbers, where is everyone getting their info? Does anyone have accurate numbers from NISSAN or a reliable source?

350zpower

Nissan will be bringing 30k a year starting next year to the states.

I dont think this cars notariaty will wear off for another 2-3 years. It will take this long for the car to really saturate the market. Others cars like the E36 M3 which had roughly a 10k a year production total are pretty rare yet their are a good 40-50k on the road in the United states today.

While I do plan to keep this car because hopefully it will have that japanese reliability factor, a lot can happen in 3 years and hopefully i can find another car to add to my garage by then.

But in all honesty, even if this car didnt get a single head turn, I would still have purchased her. She is extremely fun to drive and handles like a dream.

Zzyzx

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mcduck


By the end of next year, there will be close to 1 million current bodystyle Mustangs on the road comparted to only 42,000 Zs (if Nissan makes their sales estimate. That's 24 Mustangs for every 350Z you see!

While we are all doing statistical analysis, here's one more factor to throw into the pot:

1) 120k-150k count of Mustangs are only sold in North America.
2) 42,000 350Z produced is the world wide number. What percentage of that comes to North America? May be 60%?

ezee

There are currently over 100 million vehicles in the US. So, after the first year's production of 30,000 Zs have all been sold, your odds of seeing another 350Z on the road are:

30,000/100,000,000 = .0003, which means on average you'll see 3 Zs out of every 10,000 vehicles.

Second year, even assuming no other vehicles are sold in the US:

60,000/100,000,000 = .0006, which means on average you'll see 6 Zs out of every 10,000 vehicles after year 2.


Agreed, some markets you will see more, but from these numbers, you can see it will be awhile before the 350Z will become a common sight on the roads.

mcduck

Actually, the 42,000 I quoted was based on the 35,000 Nissan has stated is their target for US delivery next year + the 7,000 or pre-order cars already arriving this year.

I think the point we all agree on is that for at least the first year or two, those that own a Z will be in a pretty exclusive club unless Nissan kicks up the production a few notches.

350zSpeedRacer

Actually, the newest body style came out in 2000, and the body before that went into production in '94.

Another little tid bit: 94 was the last year of the 5.0 and 95 they introduced the 4.6.

Mike821

Forget the numbers...

How often do you see an older Z? Not too often, and they've been making them for several years...

Zmeflyby

i dont the z to be too common...
but i saw a truck with 3 white Zs
y? y? y?