i like the z without the spoiler better!!!
Originally posted by zzz350
I totally agree, a spoiler makes the car look cheap and definately takes away from the beautiful lines that it was designed with. The car just looks too great to ***** it up with silly add ons!
I totally agree, a spoiler makes the car look cheap and definately takes away from the beautiful lines that it was designed with. The car just looks too great to ***** it up with silly add ons!
I don't like to see a car all riced up with a bunch of plastic stick-ons. It would be different if the car actually needed a wing for stability, or if it actually needed street dragging plastic skirts, but it doesn't, and esthetically they don't add to the appearance of the car.
That doesn't mean I'm against all body mods. The car really needs a more aerodynamic nose, with functional brake cooling ducts. A less fat looking rear fascia wouldn't hurt esthetically, either. Some subtle graphics along the sides to bring out the body lines would be nice too.
Originally posted by Jetpilot718
While I don't disagree that the spoilers and mud guards are overpriced, I do disagree with about everything else you have said.
The spoiler in question (lip spoiler I'm assuming) does help airflow - though not much. The Aero package reduces the CD from .29 to .28. So yeah, you wont feel it, but it has it's purpose.
Secondly, if you think Nissan is bad for their so called gimmics, enter a little company called PORSCHE.
Their nifty little spoilers EXTEND and RETRACT. Cheap to replace? You gotta be kidding. Necessary? Probably. But then again, the lines on the Z and the lines on the Carrera are pretty similar from an aerodynamics standpoint.
Apparently you DO see that crap on Porsches. And as far as asthetics go, I'm pretty sure that 11/10 people like the aero kit on the Z...
While I don't disagree that the spoilers and mud guards are overpriced, I do disagree with about everything else you have said.
The spoiler in question (lip spoiler I'm assuming) does help airflow - though not much. The Aero package reduces the CD from .29 to .28. So yeah, you wont feel it, but it has it's purpose.
Secondly, if you think Nissan is bad for their so called gimmics, enter a little company called PORSCHE.
Their nifty little spoilers EXTEND and RETRACT. Cheap to replace? You gotta be kidding. Necessary? Probably. But then again, the lines on the Z and the lines on the Carrera are pretty similar from an aerodynamics standpoint.
Apparently you DO see that crap on Porsches. And as far as asthetics go, I'm pretty sure that 11/10 people like the aero kit on the Z...
I like my factory spoiler, but then I like racy looking cars. I think I'm going with the Stillen small spoiler now though
Originally posted by fowlman01
Yes, and wasn't the porsche the first with the"whale tail"?
I like my factory spoiler, but then I like racy looking cars. I think I'm going with the Stillen small spoiler now though
Yes, and wasn't the porsche the first with the"whale tail"?
I like my factory spoiler, but then I like racy looking cars. I think I'm going with the Stillen small spoiler now though
Unless you are dragging or tracking the car there is no use for the spoiler and if you are doing these things, then 90% of stock spoilers are crap for this anyway. Bottom line is its all for looks, supposedly.
Thats why i love to see those 4-bangers driving around with table tops fastentened to the trunk. You know what i mean those Cavaleirs (sp?), Tercels, Grand Am's, Civics, etc.. Good Stuff. And when they have the mo-ped exhaust,,,,,,sends chills up my spine, LOVE IT!!!!
Originally posted by ZZtopp
I hate to see the clean, superb lines ruined...... but then again, I love seeing how much better mine looks than those with the cheapo ornaments.
I hate to see the clean, superb lines ruined...... but then again, I love seeing how much better mine looks than those with the cheapo ornaments.
Originally posted by Chicken
There's really no need to troll and flame those who have spoilers. Yours looks better in your eyes, theirs looks better in their eyes, and unless you (or anyone else) is the official "what looks better" authority, it just a matter of personal preference. Don't worry about others "ruining the clean, suburb lines" so much.
There's really no need to troll and flame those who have spoilers. Yours looks better in your eyes, theirs looks better in their eyes, and unless you (or anyone else) is the official "what looks better" authority, it just a matter of personal preference. Don't worry about others "ruining the clean, suburb lines" so much.
And how about the so-called "Cheapo ornaments" he speaks of - that he is too cheap himself to purchase! lmao
ZZ:
Don't playa hate, man. Spoilers do add a nice visual touch to the Z. Its cool that you think it looks good without it, but dont tell others on this board that theirs looks bad with it. Thats just in poor taste..
Originally posted by kcobean
I don't know, I kinda like it (and to think, the factory spoiler is STILL on the car!)
I don't know, I kinda like it (and to think, the factory spoiler is STILL on the car!)
Originally posted by BuyMyChicken
I love your Body kit man. You wouldn't mind if I copy your set up, right? After all, mine is a Silverstone :-)
I love your Body kit man. You wouldn't mind if I copy your set up, right? After all, mine is a Silverstone :-)
Fowlman, looks like you got some new competition.. "BuyMyChicken" ??
Time to let him know who the authority on "chicks" is around here... heh
(could have been mean and said you were the authority on ****, but i figured i'd let ya off easy lol)
Originally posted by Jetpilot718
Fowlman, looks like you got some new competition.. "BuyMyChicken" ??
Time to let him know who the authority on "chicks" is around here... heh
(could have been mean and said you were the authority on ****, but i figured i'd let ya off easy lol)
Fowlman, looks like you got some new competition.. "BuyMyChicken" ??
Time to let him know who the authority on "chicks" is around here... heh
(could have been mean and said you were the authority on ****, but i figured i'd let ya off easy lol)
Originally posted by Jetpilot718
And how about the so-called "Cheapo ornaments" he speaks of - that he is too cheap himself to purchase! lmao
ZZ:
Don't playa hate, man. Spoilers do add a nice visual touch to the Z. Its cool that you think it looks good without it, but dont tell others on this board that theirs looks bad with it. Thats just in poor taste..
And how about the so-called "Cheapo ornaments" he speaks of - that he is too cheap himself to purchase! lmao
ZZ:
Don't playa hate, man. Spoilers do add a nice visual touch to the Z. Its cool that you think it looks good without it, but dont tell others on this board that theirs looks bad with it. Thats just in poor taste..
Telling me I'm "too cheap" to buy that crap is in "poor taste" Einstein.......practice what you preach, brutha. By the way, in case you didn't know, the track model comes with the spoiler...and mine had the mudguards as well. I had them all removed immediately.
I never said anything was more than just my opinion...but I can't help it if I'm right.
Originally posted by Chicken
There's really no need to troll and flame those who have spoilers. Yours looks better in your eyes, theirs looks better in their eyes, and unless you (or anyone else) is the official "what looks better" authority, it just a matter of personal preference. Don't worry about others "ruining the clean, suburb lines" so much.
There's really no need to troll and flame those who have spoilers. Yours looks better in your eyes, theirs looks better in their eyes, and unless you (or anyone else) is the official "what looks better" authority, it just a matter of personal preference. Don't worry about others "ruining the clean, suburb lines" so much.
I think the car looks much better without the add-ons......period. I'm not trolling or flaming anyone. Get over it.
Originally posted by shopdog
Preach it, brother!
I don't like to see a car all riced up with a bunch of plastic stick-ons. It would be different if the car actually needed a wing for stability, or if it actually needed street dragging plastic skirts, but it doesn't, and esthetically they don't add to the appearance of the car.
That doesn't mean I'm against all body mods. The car really needs a more aerodynamic nose, with functional brake cooling ducts. A less fat looking rear fascia wouldn't hurt esthetically, either. Some subtle graphics along the sides to bring out the body lines would be nice too.
Preach it, brother!
I don't like to see a car all riced up with a bunch of plastic stick-ons. It would be different if the car actually needed a wing for stability, or if it actually needed street dragging plastic skirts, but it doesn't, and esthetically they don't add to the appearance of the car.
That doesn't mean I'm against all body mods. The car really needs a more aerodynamic nose, with functional brake cooling ducts. A less fat looking rear fascia wouldn't hurt esthetically, either. Some subtle graphics along the sides to bring out the body lines would be nice too.
Originally posted by ZZtopp
I'm not worried about anything......just making an observation.
I think the car looks much better without the add-ons......period. I'm not trolling or flaming anyone. Get over it.
I'm not worried about anything......just making an observation.
I think the car looks much better without the add-ons......period. I'm not trolling or flaming anyone. Get over it.
Not trolling:
I personally like how the Z looks without spoilers and wings and mudguards and removed them from my car.
Trolling:
I hate to see the clean, superb lines ruined...... but then again, I love seeing how much better mine looks than those with the cheapo ornaments.
State an opinion without putting others down.
Originally posted by ZZtopp
You obviously seem to care!!! LMAO!!!!!!
You obviously seem to care!!! LMAO!!!!!!
By the way, a wise person once told me that "LMAO" is A0|_13375p3@k for "I'm an idiot." Just passing on the info, you might think it's a really cool thing and want to keep using it.
Troll troll troll your boat...
Originally posted by Chicken
I'm not sure how I'll sleep tonight. Don't mistake "caring" for "calling out the board trolls." You can think your car looks better, even if it doesn't, no one else thinks so, and you're the only one who feels that way. No one really cares, certainly not me.
By the way, a wise person once told me that "LMAO" is A0|_13375p3@k for "I'm an idiot." Just passing on the info, you might think it's a really cool thing and want to keep using it.
Troll troll troll your boat...
I'm not sure how I'll sleep tonight. Don't mistake "caring" for "calling out the board trolls." You can think your car looks better, even if it doesn't, no one else thinks so, and you're the only one who feels that way. No one really cares, certainly not me.
By the way, a wise person once told me that "LMAO" is A0|_13375p3@k for "I'm an idiot." Just passing on the info, you might think it's a really cool thing and want to keep using it.
Troll troll troll your boat...
Try some humor:
"My mother refused to breast feed me...she said she only liked me as friend."
"I went an to an AA meeting...they said there was a two drink minimum!"
"My Dad hated me......he carried around a picture of a kid that came with the wallet!"
Don't you feel better now, ********?? I'll be here all week.....tip your waitress and try the veal.
Oh......and get rid of that ugly spoiler.
jesus can you guys have a thread without fighting like women on their period?
Z31s and up need spoilers to look good. And yes, they do help a little with aerodynamics as jetpilot has stated. My next door neighbor (who is now deceased) used to race cars for a living. As well as several other friends I have who Autox, road race etc.
Some of you are so rice-o-phobic that its funny. The Z community was doing wings, body kits etc long before kids starting modifying their parents Accord. Stop being so self-conscious.
Z31s and up need spoilers to look good. And yes, they do help a little with aerodynamics as jetpilot has stated. My next door neighbor (who is now deceased) used to race cars for a living. As well as several other friends I have who Autox, road race etc.
Some of you are so rice-o-phobic that its funny. The Z community was doing wings, body kits etc long before kids starting modifying their parents Accord. Stop being so self-conscious.



