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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:41 AM
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If they shave a couple hundred pounds off it would be nice but how much with a shorter wheel base is the question.

I think nissan created a hit with the Z so they would be stupid to change something that's pretty nice to begin with. yes I have some issues here and there but it's not major.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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A V-8 Maxima actually makes sense, considering its competition. May be a Nissan version of the M45? that would be nice.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Why do we need a shorter wheelbase? The car's small as it is - we don't need to become a Miata. If that's the case, I'm glad I bought the 350Z. I'm happy with its size... If it were smaller, I don't think I'd like it as much.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by typespirit
^^^ design wise i dont see any differences to the current Z lol
Many manufacturers use the current iteration sheet-metal to retain the secrecy needed before an Auto Show official unveiling. What you see in that picture is the exact model we have now with minor modifications; shorter wheelbase, cut metal (under B-pillars) and modified headlight positioning to account for aforementioned metal resizing.

If you can go back and remember some of the first GT-R test mules were fitted under heavily modified Infiniti G-series (coupe) sheet-metal...




It's easier and definitely more effective than just camoflauging the new model for autoblogs and freelance photographers to have a field day with...

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Fairly Z
Why do we need a shorter wheelbase? The car's small as it is - we don't need to become a Miata. If that's the case, I'm glad I bought the 350Z. I'm happy with its size... If it were smaller, I don't think I'd like it as much.
I'm sure with the GT-R's imminent arrival on our shores in the not-too-distant future (09), Nissan's looking to further differentiate the two. As it stands now, both the Z and GT-R are sports cars that will be sold under the same moniker (Nissan) and both have somewhat comparable wheelbases and stances. They don't want either eating into each other's sales...

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CSTrack
I'm sure with the GT-R's imminent arrival on our shores in the not-too-distant future (09), Nissan's looking to further differentiate the two. As it stands now, both the Z and GT-R are sports cars that will be sold under the same moniker (Nissan) and both have somewhat comparable wheelbases and stances. They don't want either eating into each other's sales...
That's true enough, but at the same time the cars are vastly different as well. The Z is a RWD 2-Seater, the GT-R is an AWD 4-Seater. The GT-R is also considerably wider than the Z. I'd really prefer not to see our Z made into a compact car rather than a sports car, wouldn't you? I guess we'll just have to wait it out and see what really happens. I can say that I'm satisfied with the car's size right now; in fact, I miss the 300ZX, which was wider overall.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fairly Z
That's true enough, but at the same time the cars are vastly different as well. The Z is a RWD 2-Seater, the GT-R is an AWD 4-Seater. The GT-R is also considerably wider than the Z. I'd really prefer not to see our Z made into a compact car rather than a sports car, wouldn't you? I guess we'll just have to wait it out and see what really happens. I can say that I'm satisfied with the car's size right now; in fact, I miss the 300ZX, which was wider overall.
I may be in the minority here, but I would actually prefer a smaller Z because it would mean less weight, and consequently better agility and faster lap times. Manufacturers make 2-seaters because it captures the pure essence of "sportiness" in an automobile. Thus, I feel the shortened wheelbase is only logical and appropriate...

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ghoover
I'm assuming he means these spy photos:



Which started some discussion when they appeared because people weren't sure if it was a shortened Z, or a new model.
Correct; that's the one I'm referring to. This car is a drivetrain/platform/chassis/suspension/etc. test platform only and has nothing to do with how the car will actually LOOK, as others stated above. It just shows that we're in for a smaller, lighter, more powerful Z car. My chat with the designer confirms that this IS the next Z in testing and not some akk new model in development.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 02:03 AM
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I hope the new Maxima won't be FWD. AWD would be nice.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MustGoFastR
Correct; that's the one I'm referring to. This car is a drivetrain/platform/chassis/suspension/etc. test platform only and has nothing to do with how the car will actually LOOK, as others stated above. It just shows that we're in for a smaller, lighter, more powerful Z car. My chat with the designer confirms that this IS the next Z in testing and not some akk new model in development.
I think it will look pretty close to the model we have now (evolution as opposed to revolution). It's an exciting time to be a Nissan fan with the GT-R about to blow the doors off of every production supercar this shore has ever seen at a fraction of the cost. It seems Nissan has really stepped up their focus on the aftermarket car segment. The Z will undoubtedly have a HP increase, coupled with a lighter chassis and you have the makings of a serious sports car, much like the GT-R...
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CSTrack
I'm sure with the GT-R's imminent arrival on our shores in the not-too-distant future (09), Nissan's looking to further differentiate the two. As it stands now, both the Z and GT-R are sports cars that will be sold under the same moniker (Nissan) and both have somewhat comparable wheelbases and stances. They don't want either eating into each other's sales...
True, not to mention the G37. I think the previous G35 and current 350Z were so similar not by choice but by necessity of shared components. It's going to cost a little more to make the 350Z a little smaller - but they still should be able to share a large number of components.

And then you will have three clearly different cars. If the 350Z is too small for you, get the G37.

I like to see it as a Porsche Cayman beater rather than a Miata.

Or put another way, BMW offers the 335i and the Z4 coupe - two very different cars . . . they don't offer the 335i and then a re-styled version that is similar in size, power, weight etc., but without the back seat and call it a Z4.

A smaller, lighter 350Z is exactly what I'm looking for . . . and if it wasn't, I think I'd be looking at the G37.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MustGoFastR
Correct; that's the one I'm referring to. This car is a drivetrain/platform/chassis/suspension/etc. test platform only and has nothing to do with how the car will actually LOOK, as others stated above. It just shows that we're in for a smaller, lighter, more powerful Z car. My chat with the designer confirms that this IS the next Z in testing and not some akk new model in development.

Good. I didnt like the back roof top gap.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ghoover
True, not to mention the G37. I think the previous G35 and current 350Z were so similar not by choice but by necessity of shared components. It's going to cost a little more to make the 350Z a little smaller - but they still should be able to share a large number of components.

And then you will have three clearly different cars. If the 350Z is too small for you, get the G37.

I like to see it as a Porsche Cayman beater rather than a Miata.

Or put another way, BMW offers the 335i and the Z4 coupe - two very different cars . . . they don't offer the 335i and then a re-styled version that is similar in size, power, weight etc., but without the back seat and call it a Z4.

A smaller, lighter 350Z is exactly what I'm looking for . . . and if it wasn't, I think I'd be looking at the G37.
WOW, I couldn't have said it clearer myself. A little more separation between the cars would be a good thing. Personally I'm looking for a smaller, sportier version of the car, not 2 seater G37.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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are those akebono's?
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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v8 on fwd maxima is still ghey... lol

i wonder how much shorter that test z is, can't really tell how much they chopped up... i'd have to see it side by side...
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wei240
v8 on fwd maxima is still ghey... lol

i wonder how much shorter that test z is, can't really tell how much they chopped up... i'd have to see it side by side...
This was taken from another post.

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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wow, that's pretty cool overlay, they sure did shorten it much more than i thought...
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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^^^ exactly what i was thinking too
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by typespirit
^^^ design wise i dont see any differences to the current Z lol






you can see differences easier with all the padding and stuff they put on the front and back
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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it looks like the front is becoming more g35ish with the hood dipping more making the headlights protrude out...the back also looks like it's shorter with the hatch becoming parallel closer from the roof towards the back bumper
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