Notices
2009+ 370Z General discussion and news for the Z34 (2009+) Nissan 370z with the new 3.7-liter V6

2009 Z getting N/A VQ37VHR

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-08-2008 | 01:53 PM
  #1  
NISMO_558's Avatar
NISMO_558
Thread Starter
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,003
Likes: 4
From: Minnesota
Default 2009 Z getting N/A VQ37VHR

Just found this article, don't know if its a repost, but it states the next generation 350z (Z34) is getting an N/A version of the new GTR's engine.

http://www1.autotrader.com.au/mellor...4?OpenDocument
Old 01-08-2008 | 02:03 PM
  #2  
citymunky's Avatar
citymunky
Registered User
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,747
Likes: 0
From: Chesapeake, VA/The Bronx
Default

I knew it, but the GTR motor is the VR38DETT, not the VQ37VHR

Last edited by citymunky; 01-08-2008 at 02:07 PM.
Old 01-08-2008 | 02:04 PM
  #3  
blasian's Avatar
blasian
New Member
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 33,731
Likes: 1
From: Get out my way pimpin, LA
Default

VQ37VHR is the G37 motor.
Old 01-08-2008 | 02:05 PM
  #4  
RedBullRR's Avatar
RedBullRR
New Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 9
From: New York
Default

Dam thats cool. A simple GTR Bolt ON it would be sweet.
Old 01-08-2008 | 02:07 PM
  #5  
MarkM's Avatar
MarkM
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
From: Far enough away!
Default

I'd put money on the Z34 having the 3.8 n/a
Old 01-08-2008 | 02:26 PM
  #6  
CSTrack's Avatar
CSTrack
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Default

That would sure make swapping a GT-R motor in a bit easier. Though, as previously mentioned, the VQ37VHR is the new G-series motor. I'd be happy with either as long as considerable weight is shed..

Last edited by CSTrack; 01-08-2008 at 02:40 PM.
Old 01-08-2008 | 02:43 PM
  #8  
fallenromeo's Avatar
fallenromeo
Registered User
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 6,954
Likes: 31
From: The Cubicle of Hate
Default

Im a little disappointed that the did not mention anything about the weight of the car. Wider stance for better handling, new higher performance engine, nothing about the weight?
Old 01-08-2008 | 02:44 PM
  #9  
SOLO-350Z's Avatar
SOLO-350Z
'12 TL SH-AWD
Premier Member
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,348
Likes: 1
From: Alamo
Default

Originally Posted by 350z_racer05
Just found this article, don't know if its a repost, but it states the next generation 350z (Z34) is getting an N/A version of the new GTR's engine.

http://www1.autotrader.com.au/mellor...4?OpenDocument
haha, I would take that article like a grain of salt. R36 GT-R? LOL! Don't even have pictures of the real GT-R either.
Old 01-08-2008 | 07:50 PM
  #10  
JCZ33's Avatar
JCZ33
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
From: GEORGIA
Default

I'd like to see a 400HP ZTT in 2010 using a down tuned GTR 3.8, limited production.
Old 01-08-2008 | 07:56 PM
  #11  
GodSendsDeath's Avatar
GodSendsDeath
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,393
Likes: 0
From: Clearwater FL
Default

lol its all good, I like my HR35 just the way it is. I will drive it to the ground and than trade it for the real deal R35 baby.
Old 01-08-2008 | 08:24 PM
  #12  
MIA G35's Avatar
MIA G35
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 410
Likes: 0
From: Miami, FL
Default

i bet it'll weigh more than Z33's. probably as much as G35's, maybe more. I'm really hoping it loses weight though.
Old 01-08-2008 | 08:58 PM
  #13  
BADASSTT's Avatar
BADASSTT
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 858
Likes: 0
From: Plantation, Fla.
Default

So is that engine a inline six like the GTR or a V6?
Old 01-09-2008 | 05:06 AM
  #14  
CSTrack's Avatar
CSTrack
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Default

Originally Posted by BADASSTT
So is that engine a inline six like the GTR or a V6?
Both the new G-Series motor (VQ37VHR) and the new GT-R motor (VR38DETT) are now V6's. It was the previous GT-R generations that had the inline-six RB26DETT. One could deduce, the next Z will definitely have a V6. The only question is displacement (3.7L or 3.8L)...
Old 01-09-2008 | 09:07 AM
  #15  
JCZ33's Avatar
JCZ33
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
From: GEORGIA
Default

If history proves it's self, using the average of increases and decrease, the new Z will have …
2009 Z 3.69L ~ 346hp ~ 303tq ~ 3651lbs

One thing is for sure, the Z has always increased in size, so it can fit BIG Americans.
Old 01-09-2008 | 09:08 AM
  #16  
JCZ33's Avatar
JCZ33
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
From: GEORGIA
Default

IF the Z keeps the same size, it NISSAN will need to use less common materials to keep the relative weight or lower it, which drives the profit margin negatively, which means the Z will cost more.

If I were NISSAN I would to this:

Regualr Zs...
1. Lower the body size by 9% using common materials.
a. This lowers the nominal weight to ~ 3100 pounds allowing engine weight increases to compensate for the 3.8L (350hp)
2. Add the 3.8L N/A to all trim levels

RESULT: 8.8:1 weight to power ratio. an improvement over the current 11.4:1 ratio.

Specialty Zs...
1. Keep the previous mentioned reduced body size
2. Use less common (lighter) materials in that body size to reduce weight another 9%.
a. Giving the Z a ~2800lb chassis
3. Two trim options
a. 380Z RS - 3.8L N/A = 8:1 weight to power ratio
b. 380Z RSTT - Add the TT package from the GTR - 400HP = 7:1 ratio.
Old 01-09-2008 | 10:44 AM
  #17  
CSTrack's Avatar
CSTrack
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Default

Originally Posted by JCZ33
If history proves it's self, using the average of increases and decrease, the new Z will have …
2009 Z 3.69L ~ 346hp ~ 303tq ~ 3651lbs

One thing is for sure, the Z has always increased in size, so it can fit BIG Americans.
I would think the purported shortened wheelbase of the next Z testing mule shows Nissan is trying to lower the curb weight?
Old 01-09-2008 | 11:21 AM
  #18  
JCZ33's Avatar
JCZ33
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
From: GEORGIA
Default

Originally Posted by CSTrack
I would think the purported shortened wheelbase of the next Z testing mule shows Nissan is trying to lower the curb weight?
It would be a first ever weight reduction for the model line, but... definately the right direction! :-)
Old 01-09-2008 | 11:45 AM
  #19  
SnakeBitten's Avatar
SnakeBitten
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,505
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default

Teh date on that article has rendered this information null and void.....As mentioned the G37 has the motor they are talking about....It aint an N/A GTR motor afaik..I clicked this with utter anticipation..Even went and warmed up my food and grabbed a soda just to take in this article....I hate you op
Old 01-09-2008 | 11:48 AM
  #20  
Donsred350Z's Avatar
Donsred350Z
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: Okc,Ok
Default

A de-tuned N/A GTR motor thats what I'm talking about even at 3300lbs though I'm hoping 3100lbs with a 346-350hp engine that suckers gonna fly, probably doing 4.8-4.9 0-60 and low 13s or 12.8 1/4 runs. Man that will be pi$$ing in tall cotton, if it stays under $30k-35k. I'd settle for a 330hp G37 engine but the GTR 3.8 would be better and more big brother looking out, sorta.

I'm saving my pennies now it be nice if I could keep my Z33 Redline and buy a Z34 in Black. But thats wishful dreaming, one gotta go, bye Z33.

Last edited by Donsred350Z; 01-09-2008 at 11:52 AM.



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:18 AM.