Z04

iTrader: (15)

another AT thread turned to crap by the narrow-minded MT crowd. way to go

Greg06

Duh... Why do you think I made it?

Bad driver + Cell phone + Automatic + Long drive =

Many drivers need all the help they can get...Seriously

Greg06

Im not against a DSG tranny and will get one if offered on whatever car Im getting.

But get real man.. How do ya think all of these AT/MT threads end up?

You post is a bit funny tho... Seeing as the OP/thread starter is a MT fan..

And by your reply to that post..

It didnt sound like you gave a darn about this thread in any event. Just an observation nothing personal...

WL350Z

here we go again, please anybody can closed this treads do it now before get worse.

Greg06

No worries nothing is starting up... And yes all tranny threads should banned.. As nothing ever comes of them.

This tread has gone its course in any event..

Did you read thru the entire thread by anychance? Anyone can see exactly which posters werent discussing anything... But "only" making negative comments toward other posters...

Shift__Z

iTrader: (1)

To the ignorant that said an auto is faster...take an auto and a MT on a circuit and see how well they do against each other. Even if the Auto is faster in a straight line I dont see it winning on a circuit.

Endgame

I think an Auto Clutch would beat a MT on the circut, but certainly not a tradional AT....

skaterbasist

iTrader: (3)

"FAIL" in the aspect you take away the right of a choice/option for someone who's about to spend 30k.

I don't think anyone was arguing that traditional manuals are better performers than high tech autos.

If performance is all that matters to you, a DSG-like tranny is a great option.

If you're a thrill seeker and don't mind sacraficing a little bit of performance for more fun, the type of tranny is pretty obvious.

In the end, it all comes down to personal preference & priorities. There is no wrong or right choice...as long as they give us a choice. As of me, there's no way I'd give up some fun for performance.

That was all my point.

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yacoub

It's okay, there are many more people who would love to see the DSG-style transmission offered than those who don't. Nissan knows in this day and age it would be suicide to offer it with only a manual trans, so they will definitely offer it with some sort of clutch-pedal-less transmission, be it a slushbox like in the 350z, or a DSG.
What skater calls "fun" most people call a chore. This includes WRC, F1, and just about every other auto racing medium, including the highest ranks at the drag strip whether domestic or import. None of the above use a clutch pedal anymore, it's archaic and only introduces a potential point of error and proven point of slowness. But there will always be some people who like doing things the hard way, and they will cop an elitist attitude about it in order to make themselves feel good about being outmoded.

JunkStory

I think the 370Z will come with the 7-speed auto tranny in the G37.

NISMO_558

iTrader: (1)

wow, this thread is basically going down the sh!tter. I got an idea, why don't we all just waite till the 370Z actually comes out and stop arguing over a car that doesn't even exist yet. There isn't a single person on here that knows a thing about what nissan is actully planning for the new Z, well except for one person....

daryl.blas

Not completely true. Dual-Clutches always over perform manual clutches. For example The Evo X finished 2nd after the GT-R, and Before the Z06, 911 T, STi, and Viper...

Don't get me wrong I'm a clutch-enthusiast. But, it's way quicker then anyone could possibly shift. Trust me.

Endgame

This is just ANOTHER example of technology overcoming human prowess. We have seen this happen all throughout history, and there are always those who stubbornly cling to what they still believe reality to be.

Technology always seems to win out...

daryl.blas

Technology.. the best and worst of us isn't it?

daryl.blas

Haha.. I just realized that I threw myself into the burning bush. I honestly didn't know the dabate was this heated. Oh-brother. Whatever...

zsport1

Shift__Z

iTrader: (1)

No i was referring to a regular AT not dual clutch
Like you take an auto z and six speed out on the circuit with the same driver the six speed would be quicker

THe Emperor

iTrader: (4)

I'm gonna have to disagree. People seem to forget the Z has tiptronic and the slushbox 5AT shifts in about 250-300ms right in the range of Porsche's tiptronic transmissions. Plus downshifts are just as quick and the computer automatically revmatches too. I think it would be very close and could go either way.

Endgame

Then, aside from the feel of fun, what is the major advantage of the MT vs. AT (non dual clutch)?

What would be the advantage of Nissan going to a DCT if the AT 'comes close'?

Someone help me out...please??

aznguy370z

iTrader: (2)

The dual clutch doesn't lose hp like an automatic with a torque converter. The dual clutch shifts gears faster than auto with torque converter. Even the auto in the is-f can't shift as fast a dc. Don't worry the 370z most likely will not offer a dc.