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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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I wonder what relocating the battery to the back would do for weight distribution.
The more or longer wires you run, it creates more resistance and you'll add weight, I'm not sure that's what you want.

So this kind of confirm Edmunds numbers are slower, then again this test was carry out in Michigan where temperature was 43 & 50 on their sheet, maybe it got a little more cold air than Edmunds did in California???

Either way, looks like I will get my hands on one soon. I'm thinking anything in the car I can remove to save weight besides the spare....
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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So then the Cayman will be on point with MT's test of 4.7!!!

It still remains to be seen how they match on the track. As long as the Z is close to the current Cayman, I do not care about the 320hp one. There will ALWAYS be a someone badder. And, let's face it... Porsche WAS NOT going to let themselves be bested twice by Nissan, GT-R AND 370Z....

At least Porsche showed their cards before the Nismo....now Nissan can make the Nismo fight the 320 HP Cayman S. Just give the Nismo 345 to 350 HP and it should be able to trade blows with it.

What are you talking about? So far, its about even with the 2009 Cayman S 320hp with its claimed 0-60 of 4.9.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Decent review. Sounds like a winner once we all get past just looking at it. Just a tenth behind the old Cayman S they said to 60mph...320hp upcoming Cayman S upgrade with PDK is gonna keeeelll the 370z lol...Oh well the Nismo version is gonna get it or at least close to it....Thanks for the link OP.
Can't compare the Cayman S at this price level. This car is putting up extremely similar numbers to the E46 M3 at about a $20K discount. That's a big plus in my book. Performance wise its nothing that a few mods cannot fix, you know somebody is going to come out with a Turbo kit
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Did you guys see the top speed for 5th and 6th gears? They electronically limited at 6th gear at 6050RPM at 157mph. It would havve at least go 170mph.

Let's crack that!
Damn, can't remember where I saw this but some mag or something stated that it was drag limited to 165mph. Wish I could remember but with some many new articles popping up it's hard to keep track
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Looking better and better. Can't wait 'till Top Gear tests it out.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Although Nissan’s engineers had to add nearly 200 pounds of safety and regulatory bric-a-brac, the car is only 33 pounds heavier than the 350Z we tested in June of ’07, in part because the hatch, A-pillars, and doors are now aluminum. We know, because we attacked them with a “Big Sky” fridge magnet.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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So it's official...the car weighs more than a 350Z, straight from the mouths of Nissan engineers.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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Not really. All Nissan Engineers said is that they had to add in 200lbs of safety and regulatory equipment, not that it weighs more or less than anything else.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by black06z
What are you talking about? So far, its about even with the 2009 Cayman S 320hp with its claimed 0-60 of 4.9.

OHHHHH. MY BAD!! I did not realize the 320 Cayman S was the 4.9 0-60!! COOL!!! Then, depending on the driver, the 370Z could beat a Cayman to 60.

COOL!!! Thanks for the sensor!!
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Endgame
OHHHHH. MY BAD!! I did not realize the 320 Cayman S was the 4.9 0-60!! COOL!!! Then, depending on the driver, the 370Z could beat a Cayman to 60.

COOL!!! Thanks for the sensor!!
I promise you the 09 Cayman S will 0-60 faster than the 370z, esp. with the PDK transmission. 4.9 sec is a conservative FACTORY estimate, but with launch control and a mid-engine layout, it will pull faster 0-60 times than the 370z. However, I would not be surprised if it does not trap more than a mph or two faster in the quarter mile b/c the power to weight ratio is not significantly better than the 370z.

However, this is no knock against the 370z as the Cayman S obviously should be faster considering it costs twice as much. Plus, the 370z should handily beat the base Cayman in acceleration. The 370z sounds like its an outstanding car (exterior design reservations aside).

In my opinion, although the HR 350z and the pre-09 Cayman S may have been similar in terms of numbers, in terms of feel it wasn't even a contest. However, initial reviews seem to imply that gap has been narrowed significantly...
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Well... that is what I was originally thinking. O.K. so I am back on that line of thought... I expect the PDK 320 Cayman to do 0-60 in either 4.6 or 4.7....
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ITR#203
I promise you the 09 Cayman S will 0-60 faster than the 370z, esp. with the PDK transmission. 4.9 sec is a conservative FACTORY estimate, but with launch control and a mid-engine layout, it will pull faster 0-60 times than the 370z. However, I would not be surprised if it does not trap more than a mph or two faster in the quarter mile b/c the power to weight ratio is not significantly better than the 370z.

However, this is no knock against the 370z as the Cayman S obviously should be faster considering it costs twice as much. Plus, the 370z should handily beat the base Cayman in acceleration. The 370z sounds like its an outstanding car (exterior design reservations aside).

In my opinion, although the HR 350z and the pre-09 Cayman S may have been similar in terms of numbers, in terms of feel it wasn't even a contest. However, initial reviews seem to imply that gap has been narrowed significantly...
How much does a Cayman S cost? How much in mods would it cost for a 370Z to match it? Not much I suppose. That is assuming the Cayman S is actually quicker.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Endgame
Well... that is what I was originally thinking. O.K. so I am back on that line of thought... I expect the PDK 320 Cayman to do 0-60 in either 4.6 or 4.7....
Just to be clear the Cayman S is said to do 0-100km/h in 4.9 sec....which is equal to 0-62mph not 0-60mph FWIW. PDK will be damn quick also...
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
So it's official...the car weighs more than a 350Z, straight from the mouths of Nissan engineers.
You're misinterpreting what they stated. The whole chassis itself was much lighter than the 350Z. But adding all the safety equipment neglected much of that. Hence, same model for same model, its only a little lighter (though you keep on arguing that its heavier).

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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by blasian
If its faster in turns and a straight line... I don't really care if it gained a little weight
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As long as it's better than the one it's replacing. I have no problem with it..
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by zman1910
Just to be clear the Cayman S is said to do 0-100km/h in 4.9 sec....which is equal to 0-62mph not 0-60mph FWIW. PDK will be damn quick also...
Right.. I am estimating 320 HP w/PDK to be 0-60 at 4.6...
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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What's the price on a Cayman? $50K - $60K? I don't think these two cars would really play in the same market space. Someone seriously looking at the Caymen is, IMO, not really interested in the Z.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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What's the price on a Cayman? $50K - $60K? I don't think these two cars would really play in the same market space. Someone seriously looking at the Caymen is, IMO, not really interested in the Z.
Maybe not the Cayman S, but a Cayman...yes...
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Porsche's own website lists the Cayman S at 5.1 for 0-60

The Z is half the price of the Cayman S, and even if the new Cayman runs a 4.6 or 4.7... we're talking 2/10th of a second quicker for double the price and a Porsche name plate?

$59,910 for a Cayman S or $69,900 for the Cayman S Sport. (without options)

Yeah, I think I'll stick with a Z. Last time I checked the economy isn't exactly friendly.

Hell, I can buy TWO 370z's for the price of ONE Cayman S and I should point out, the Cayman S I posted about doesn't have the world famous Porsche options lists (read: over priced fluff) so the Cayman S is closer to 80-90 once all is said and done.

Yeah, 370Z FTW.

if I was going to drop 70 on a car, it sure as hell wouldn't be a Cayman S Sport, I'd be looking for a GT-R from the midwest where you can still find them for MSRP.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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So....You guys are saying the 2009 Cayman S will be just as fast as the 2008 911 Carrera S, which does the 0-60 in 4.6??? The Base does it in 4.8. That is ridiculous. Apparently, Porsche has way too many models in their line-up. This 370z will be competing with 100's of different Porsche models.

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