SycnroRev Matching vs Traditional Double Clutching
Syncro rev is so much better that doing it yourself, its not even worth trying, and I am an experianced driver-maunal transmission guy.
Syncro-revs perfect matching is easier on the clutch and driveline.
Syncro-revs perfect matching is easier on the clutch and driveline.
Actually double-clutching does provide one advantage over heel toe downshifing/rev-matching.
I studied it some time ago and there is some component in the drivetrain that doesn't get its input/output speed matched when you do a regular rev-match.
I double-clutch only because it's what I originally learned and I don't have a desire to start over. I've got over a decades of double-clutch experience so I'll stick with it.
I studied it some time ago and there is some component in the drivetrain that doesn't get its input/output speed matched when you do a regular rev-match.
I double-clutch only because it's what I originally learned and I don't have a desire to start over. I've got over a decades of double-clutch experience so I'll stick with it.
'back in the day' ?
dude. You're 28. There is no back in the day to you unless you're referring to when you were 8 and used to spin donuts on your radio flyer.
but to answer your question, isn't this obvious? I mean, especially if you were an engineer and what not. You'd know the SyncroRev isn't trying to double clutch. Like Mcarther101 said... buy some old school vehicle if you want to be fast, and furious.
dude. You're 28. There is no back in the day to you unless you're referring to when you were 8 and used to spin donuts on your radio flyer.
but to answer your question, isn't this obvious? I mean, especially if you were an engineer and what not. You'd know the SyncroRev isn't trying to double clutch. Like Mcarther101 said... buy some old school vehicle if you want to be fast, and furious.
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I've read the comments here with interest and as a racer with over 20+ years of experience, I think SyncroRev offers some technological advantages for both downshifts AND upshifts. While I also use heel-toe technique on a regular basis, it wouldn't stop me from using SyncroRev to be more precise in blipping the throttle. I experimented with this when testing the 370Z at Spring Mountain Motorsports Ranch for Nissan Sport Magazine and found SyncroRev worked in harmony with my technique.
One disadvantage not mentioned here is the potential for mechanical/electronic failure. Anytime you add another mechanism, such as SyncroRev, to an already complex transmission there's a higher possibility that something could malfunction. That's the only downside I can see to this technology.
David Muramoto
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Nissan Sport Magazine
One disadvantage not mentioned here is the potential for mechanical/electronic failure. Anytime you add another mechanism, such as SyncroRev, to an already complex transmission there's a higher possibility that something could malfunction. That's the only downside I can see to this technology.
David Muramoto
Editor-in-chief
Nissan Sport Magazine
The rev match gets real annoying. good thing you can turn it off. Besides the challenge of doing it yourself is all the fun. I learned when my VW bug had a broken clutch cable. Could drive the damn thing with no clutch after a while, Starts fron stop was tricky though
LOL. I drove a VW Bug through the entire state of Oklahoma without a clutch. Downshifting was easy. Starting in first gear was a little rough.
The synchro-rev match feature is the best all around because it allows you to apply the break while simultaneously upshifting without having to hit the gas. This makes for easier operation while going around a sharp corner on the downshift.
Technically, the synchro-rev match is easier on your drivetrain aswell. Because the synchro rev always perfectly matches the engine speed to the transmission speed by blipping the throttle, it results in almost no clutch wear, engine drag, or rocky shifts.
Technically, the synchro-rev match is easier on your drivetrain aswell. Because the synchro rev always perfectly matches the engine speed to the transmission speed by blipping the throttle, it results in almost no clutch wear, engine drag, or rocky shifts.
Last edited by Salvatorey; Apr 6, 2009 at 11:41 AM.
The hostlity in this forum blows my mind. I see that I'm posting a question that 16 year olds whose 'daddy' bought their cars could never understand.
To reply to some of the above comments:
No, I don't lie about being 28. Moron.
As you can see from a few posts throughout this thread, some knowledgable individuals also note that there is an inherent benefit to double-clutching that SRM has nothing to do with. While it's not necessary to double-clutch, it does in fact remove additional work from the synchros.
Finally, STLZ...find me a Nissan 370Z with 6MT and the sport package that DOESN'T have sychro-rev matching. Doesn't exist. That being said, I really enjoy the SRM as it does a better job matching revs than I'll ever be able to accomplish.
To reply to some of the above comments:
No, I don't lie about being 28. Moron.
As you can see from a few posts throughout this thread, some knowledgable individuals also note that there is an inherent benefit to double-clutching that SRM has nothing to do with. While it's not necessary to double-clutch, it does in fact remove additional work from the synchros.
Finally, STLZ...find me a Nissan 370Z with 6MT and the sport package that DOESN'T have sychro-rev matching. Doesn't exist. That being said, I really enjoy the SRM as it does a better job matching revs than I'll ever be able to accomplish.
Last edited by spearfish25@gma; Apr 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM.
I double clutch when skipping gears and sometimes going from 1st to 2nd, saves your syncros. Double clutching is not completely worthless like a lot of people assume. That being said I've driven the Z clutchless plenty of times just for the hell of it. If you enjoy manually shifting and you can rev match WELL, then go for it. The strain on the trans compared to SRM should be negligible. But overall the new automatic matching system will be easier on the trans.
With modern synchros, there's no need to double clutch, so in terms of wear, there should be no appreciable difference.
With that said, I do enjoy double clutching in certain gears, especially into 2nd gear. Just as fast as a regular rev-match downshift IMO and tends to be consistently smoother for myself as it "flows" a little more. Generally I'll double clutch when moving down multiple gears or going into a low gear.
With that said, I do enjoy double clutching in certain gears, especially into 2nd gear. Just as fast as a regular rev-match downshift IMO and tends to be consistently smoother for myself as it "flows" a little more. Generally I'll double clutch when moving down multiple gears or going into a low gear.
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