Porsche accuses Nissan of cheating...
10-01-2008, 06:20 PM
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Top Gear'S own lap times: (I know, there's still a hundred variables, but this seems consistent with what others have found)
Also, If I do wind up buying a GTR, I realize that times will still come down to my own sorry-a$$ driving skills.
The list [from gtrblog.com/index.php/2008/07/20/top-gear-season-11-nissan-gt-r-on-the-to-1?blog=4]
Nissan GT-R: 7th place - 1:19.7
Here’s the top 20 of the Top Gear test track power board:
1:17.3 – Ascari A10
1:17.6 – Koenigsegg CCX (with “Top Gear Spoiler")
1:18.4 – Pagani Zonda F
1:18.9 – Maserati MC12
1:19.0 – Ferrari Enzo
1:19.5 – Ariel Atom 2 300
1:19.7 – Nissan GT-R
1:19.7 – Ferrari 430 Scuderia
1:19.8 – Porsche Carrera GT
1:19.8 – Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
1:20.4 – Koenigsegg CCX [6]
1:20.7 – Ascari KZ1
1:20.9 – Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
1:21.2 – Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
1:21.9 – Ford GT
1:22.3 – Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
1:22.3 – Porsche 911 GT3 RS
1:22.4 – Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1:22.5 – Noble M15
1:22.9 – Ferrari F430 F1
Also, If I do wind up buying a GTR, I realize that times will still come down to my own sorry-a$$ driving skills.
The list [from gtrblog.com/index.php/2008/07/20/top-gear-season-11-nissan-gt-r-on-the-to-1?blog=4]
Nissan GT-R: 7th place - 1:19.7
Here’s the top 20 of the Top Gear test track power board:
1:17.3 – Ascari A10
1:17.6 – Koenigsegg CCX (with “Top Gear Spoiler")
1:18.4 – Pagani Zonda F
1:18.9 – Maserati MC12
1:19.0 – Ferrari Enzo
1:19.5 – Ariel Atom 2 300
1:19.7 – Nissan GT-R
1:19.7 – Ferrari 430 Scuderia
1:19.8 – Porsche Carrera GT
1:19.8 – Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
1:20.4 – Koenigsegg CCX [6]
1:20.7 – Ascari KZ1
1:20.9 – Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
1:21.2 – Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
1:21.9 – Ford GT
1:22.3 – Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
1:22.3 – Porsche 911 GT3 RS
1:22.4 – Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1:22.5 – Noble M15
1:22.9 – Ferrari F430 F1
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10-01-2008, 06:45 PM
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BTW, I am not saying that it's not possible for Nissan to have cheated in some way.
Look at their HP rating system for 2006 and older cars... in 2007, they had to start using actual SAE ratings.
They built an all-new 3.5 engine for 2007 why??? So they would not get caught "cheating" by the public.
Nissan says: "Oh... the all-new 07 [HR] engine has "6" more HP than the 06 rev-up DE due to the dual intakes"
That's why the 07 car is ~.5 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile. Right!
GTFO!
My HR on the same dyno as my wife's 06 rev-up made almost FOURTY more HP up top - i am not talking Peak HP. Peak HP was "only" a 30-hp difference.
Nissan cheats. I still like the GTR Though.
Look at their HP rating system for 2006 and older cars... in 2007, they had to start using actual SAE ratings.
They built an all-new 3.5 engine for 2007 why??? So they would not get caught "cheating" by the public.
Nissan says: "Oh... the all-new 07 [HR] engine has "6" more HP than the 06 rev-up DE due to the dual intakes"
That's why the 07 car is ~.5 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile. Right!
GTFO!My HR on the same dyno as my wife's 06 rev-up made almost FOURTY more HP up top - i am not talking Peak HP. Peak HP was "only" a 30-hp difference.
Nissan cheats. I still like the GTR Though.
10-02-2008, 06:57 AM
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I haz da turbos
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Powerhouse amuse has there Phantom GT-R doing over 600 ponies. They have dynoed there car at the crank and at the wheels, and they ave reported only a 9% loss through the powertrain. 9%!!!!!!!!
Check it out for yourselves
www.webamuse.co.jp
Check it out for yourselves
www.webamuse.co.jp
10-04-2008, 03:10 PM
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Sour grapes? Maybe Porsche should take this as a wake up call.
Sour grapes? Maybe Porsche should take this as a wake up call.
10-04-2008, 07:05 PM
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thats nuts wow i had no idea the gtr did that well on the top gear track hanging with all of those exotics wow. the stig is the man. oh and on the note of the hr motor it is a beast as well
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