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Old 11-17-2011, 11:53 AM
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Has anyone ever used a product called "Forever Black Black-Top" and if so what did you think of it? See image below. It appears to be some type of gel for faded black convertible tops. Mine is pretty faded, otherwise in good shape tho... If not this stuff is there some other or better way to get the top back to a nice deep black?

http://www.foreverblack.com/products.html

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Old 11-17-2011, 12:33 PM
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+1 on the UV protection. I definitely would rec. such on an OEM top.
Old 11-17-2011, 12:51 PM
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Couldn't hurt. Any dye applied by hand will have imperfect blotches. But that is better than a faded top.

BTW any reason you park IN the sun but do not use a car cover?

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Originally Posted by davidv
BTW any reason you park the sun but do not use a car cover?
Please ignore that post, it's nothing but a troll comment.

We all know that no one is going to put a car cover on everywhere that they drive their Z (work, etc). In fact, when you park your car at home, it's usually during the hours of the day when the sun is less of a factor. Most of the sun on our tops comes while its sitting in the parking lot at work. And not to many folks are going to deal with the snide comments, etc. that putting a cover over your car each morning and after lunch in the work parking lot would generate.

Definitely go with the UV protection and maybe take some pictures of:

1) Before application
2) After application
3) Weeks later

So that we can all get your assessment on this product. I may try it myself.

Thanks!
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I would def. like to know how this works, HECK...I might even go get it just to try it!
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Never used this product.Most top "dyes" are a spray.I have used these before(MAR-HYDE).They are all basically the same.It worked great.Make sure you mask the car well.Also,since most are vinyl coatings,the odor is pretty stong.
Black is the only color I would think about doing.
I had no splotching problems

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Old 11-17-2011, 03:29 PM
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Another product online called "Blackwow". It's supposed to be one of the best for restoring black surfaces. It's not a dye, but it's supposed to last the longest of the restorers. G/L
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Originally Posted by davidv
BTW any reason you park IN the sun but do not use a car cover?
Well would love to but that's a bit cumbersome when you're getting in/out the car several times a day... Most people would probably think you looked like a major Delta Bravo* putting a car cover on after your lunch break...

I try to find a shade tree in the parking lot at work but sometimes I can't!

* aka douche bag
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Originally Posted by SparkleCityHop
take some pictures of:

1) Before application
2) After application
3) Weeks later

So that we can all get your assessment on this product. I may try it myself.

Thanks!
good idea, i will try to remember to do that!

Thanks for the suggestions everyone
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I was considering it for awhile but it states it is for vinyl tops not cloth and after lookin at many sources on this forum it appears the z has a cloth top
Old 12-02-2011, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by micdams
I was considering it for awhile but it states it is for vinyl tops not cloth and after lookin at many sources on this forum it appears the z has a cloth top
OEM top is not cloth.
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Originally Posted by sluggoZ
OEM top is not cloth.
^ +1
Old 12-02-2011, 05:45 PM
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Lol wtf I've seen so many debates on this... well if anyone tries the dye on ur oem top pleaseee post pics!
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Hopefully this will clear up your question about the top's construction:


From: Haartz, Doug [mailto:dhaartz@haartz.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:25 PM
To: xxxx; info@wolfsteins.com; classic1@tampabay.rr.com
Subject: FW: 350ZR Top

To All:

The above email chain has been forwarded to me for review and comment. The prevailing question is" What top material is offered / supplied on the Nissan 350Z from the factory". Please allow me to add my comments regarding the question at hand.

My name is Doug Haartz and I work for The Haartz Corporation, the worlds premier manufacturer and leader in convertible top materials. Our products are used on virtually every soft top convertible (both cloth and PVC) manufactured throughout the world. I am responsible for the International market, including Japan. I have spoken to the Nissan top system supplier (located in Hiroshima, Japan) to confirm my information.

The only top that has ever been offered directly from the factory is PVC. The construction is a single exterior layer of PVC laminated to a solid Black colored inner backing fabric made of 100% cotton. The exterior embossing simulates a fabric texture. The 2 factory colors are Black or Blue PVC.

Now, I have read the information that is supplied in the Nissan manual and it certainly leads us to believe that the top could be cloth. I cannot vouch for tops out in the field without seeing them, however, unless the top has been replaced since leaving the factory, it is PVC.

The proper product from RaggTopp is the Vinyl cleaner and protectant. This is endorsed and recommended by Haartz for all PVC products that we produce. Likewise the RaggTopp Fabric cleaner and protectant is recommended for our fabric top constructions.

regards,
Douglas Haartz
THE HAARTZ CORPORATION
International Sales Manager
87 Hayward Road
Acton, MA. USA 01720
Phone: +1-978-264-2600
Fax: +1-978-264-2601
Email: dhaartz@haartz.com
Web: www.haartz.com
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Ugh I used the 303 fabric top kit on mine.... fml
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Well i use the Armor all that they sell at the auto shop.. I just spray it all over with out rubbing or anything and it gives it a very nice dark tone and it looks clean..
I've had no problems.
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If anyone wants to try some sketchy ish out on our tops, send it my way. I got a black one sitting in my yard still in it's frame lol. I'll do whatever you want (within reason, I'm not going to be able to test sh*t like daily for time reasons) and we can see what happens. I doubt I'll ever end up selling the damn thing, so may as well put it to use before I trash it.
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Last week I went looking for something to restore the color went to autozone and oreillys and ended up grabbing meguiars ultimate black plastic restorer I did one coat with a pad and let it dry and wiped off excess instantly gave it a shine says to do 2-3 coats waited to the next day and gave it another coat and I can say it was the best $10 I could have spent on my top still looks like I just put it on
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Originally Posted by johndoesdamage
Last week I went looking for something to restore the color went to autozone and oreillys and ended up grabbing meguiars ultimate black plastic restorer I did one coat with a pad and let it dry and wiped off excess instantly gave it a shine says to do 2-3 coats waited to the next day and gave it another coat and I can say it was the best $10 I could have spent on my top still looks like I just put it on
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I'll take some tomorrow,this will be my first pic post


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