How can this thing be mount in a Z? I've seen pictures but I'm looking for other options. I don't want to see that huge hole where the stock nav should go, and I don't want to keep the stock cd player. What are my options?

 

you dont have any, sorry

your best bet is to wait about 1-2months and pick up the AVIC-D1 or

It is essentially the same thing, except double DIN non-flip out style.

-jim

 

Good stuff, do you know the exact date of release for it? What's it going to cost?

Is that the reason for the low cost of the N1 lately? I saw it at Best Buy for $1500.

What's "double" DIN mean?

 

The Eclipse double-din nav unit is also pretty cool. Might fit the bill.
http://www.eclipse-web.com/

 

Single DIN is the standard size of a typical headunit. In the Z, we have a double DIN headunit, simply meaning double the height. To my knowledge, the Pioneer AVIC-N1 is a standard single DIN headunit. Just get a double-din mounting kit for the Z and you'll be good to go. It'll give you the headunit in one of the DIN slots, and you'll have a pocket to fill in the other slot. Follow the link in my sig to see pics of my install. There's a pic of my single din headunit installed with a standard double din dash kit. I believe the kit is made by Scosche. Could also be Metra, since they are the two big dash kit manufacturers. (I don't recall which one I got.)

If you really want a double DIN headunit, though, the Eclipse double-din nav unit is also pretty cool. Might fit the bill.

Another option is to install an lcd screen in place of the cubby hole, and get a hide-away nav unit. That's what I did. (Pics on my website.)
http://www.eclipse-web.com/

 

another question about the N1 ... the website says that you can navigate DVD options and listen to music in the front and watch the DVD in the back ... does that mean that you can't watch DVD in the front , on the actual N1 unit ?

 

also , in order to use the Nav on the N1 , to you just have to put in a Nav disc ... does the N1 come w/ that ? sry fellas I'm a noob TIA

 

I have a Pioneer AVIC-N1, all in one unit for sale. I had it for 5 months now. It has NAV, DVD, CD, MP3, Gyrol Tech (speed, G's, Braking, etcc), and of course motorized touch screen, all cramped into a single din. I just got a AVIC-N2 as a gift. I will only replace the head unit with the old one and include all new wires / kit manuals in the new AVIC-N2 Box. I'm asking $500 for it. If interested, please call me at 214-497-9100.

In regards to your worries about the openiong, it doe not go into the Factory Nav slot. It is simply one din sized stereo with motorized 7" touch screen. Even when the new D1 comes out, you couldn't put it in the Facotry nav area due to the depth and wiring. I guess if you really want to do that, you could but I personally don't think that's a good Idea. April or so, Pioneer is comming out with Ipod Adapter. I would integrate your Ipod into the NAV slot. Call me if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Rich

 

N1, you can what DVD in fornt, You just have to ground a wire. I've done it for my unit. Unfortunately, you can't with the new N2. It's now a software override issue. Currently we're at version 1.2 or 1.02 software. The very new version software Pioneer will send out to those N1 owners who registered it, DO NOT UPDATE!!!! You will NO LONGER BE ABLE TO WATCH DVD while driving, unless you use secondary Vidoe output from the hideaway unit.

 

how do you "ground a wire" ?

 

Just to clarify a bit on what zonester said:

Most nav units from any manufacturer (including the N1) generally will disable many of the features once you start moving. In the N1, this includes the ability to watch movies. The idea is that they don't want you watching a movie of futzing with a bunch of menus while driving down the road.

There are numerous ways a nav unit can know that you are moving:

1) The hand brake is not on.

2) It's a gps receiver, so it obviously can tell when you're moving.

3) The speed sensor wire in your car.

Item number 1 is what zonester was talking about. The hand brake wire is basically a ground wire hooked to the hand brake. When you pull the hand brake, it grounds out this wire. This tells the nav unit you pulled the hand brake, so it assumes it's now safe to play movies and reactivate all the disabled features. My Alpine nav does the same thing. So, what most people do is simply take that hand brake wire and ground it permanently. This makes the nav unit think the hand brake is *always* on, so it doesn't disable any features even if you're moving. I've done this on my Alpine, and it works great.

However, there are two other ways for a nav unit to know you are moving, and that's what zonester is talking about. The next version of the Pioneer unit (the N2) sounds like it's going to disable those various features not only when the hand brake is not pulled (because you can disable that easily), but also when it detects you moving via gps reception, or via your vehicle's speed sensor wire. My Alpine is similar. Even with the hand brake wire grounded, it'll still pop up a warning message when I'm moving and still try to access the menus. It'll let me hit okay and use them anyway, but it still nags me about it. Sounds like the N2 will disable it completely. Bummer.

You had also asked about navigation while listening to music. The trick with the N1 is that it only has 1 disc reader in it. So what you do is insert the nav disc, and plan out your route. The N1 has a limited amount of memory in it, so it will take your route (and a chunk of the areas around your route) and save it to memory so it no longer needs the nav disc. Then you can eject the nav disc and put in your audio discs. As long as you stay relatively within your pre-programmed route, it will never need the nav disc again. However, if you veer too far off course you will get outside of the area of the map it has saved, and I believe it will ask for the nav disc to be re-inserted. Someone who has used this unit will have to comment further on the exact details, since I've never personally used it. I only know what I know based on what I've read about it on the forums.

Oh, you also asked about movies in the rear seats and such. When you are moving, the N1 will disable the ability to watch movies on its built-in screen, however it will still allow movies to be played on its auxillary screens. People normally install auxillary screens in the back seats of their cars, which is why Pioneer considers it okay to play movies there when you are driving.

As far as playing music up front and watching movies in the back, I'm not sure how it'd do that. It's only got 1 disc reader, so it can't read a DVD and an audio CD at the same time. Maybe a DVD and the radio? Someone who owns one will have to comment on that.

 

so how do you grind the wire ? is it an easy mod ?

 

www.the12volt.com

read up there. should give you all of the knowledge you need regarding wiring anything to a car battery.

 

Grounding a wire simply means connecting it to the chassis of the car. You just have to find a good, clean connection to the metal of the chassis. It doesn't actually have to be a super clean ground in this case since we're just talking the hand brake sensor for a nav unit. Those barely put out any current, so the ground can be minimal.

When you're talking amplifiers and such, you need a really good, clean ground, though. You can do research on all sorts of sites for more info, such as the one Motown posted. Crutchfield's site might also have some basic info on that sort of thing since they like to promote people doing their own installs (at least to an extent).

 

wow, I sold mine for $1100

 

So, Any takers? I'm serious about selling my N1. I prefere local pick up but I couls ship it for an extra cost. If interested, PM me. I will take pics before I remove to show you screen shots, during, some pointeres, etc... First come first serve. Still stands at $500 Plus shipping (est. $20 to $35 Insured).

 

PM'd you zone

 

I Pm'd zonester at least 1 week ago about the unit. No response

 

Sounds fishy to me....

 

er, just got a response back