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Old 02-14-2003, 06:21 AM
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Just to humor me (to be honest, b/c i like this set up b/c its so flexable to swap things out or add things in its still being considered) where would you put the sub? would it be louder than 2 10w6v2's? do i need a 1000/1, or could i use 1 500/1 to that 1 12w7??

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WOWOWOWO ok.... just checked specs and got the W7 with something else.....750watts RMS thats nuts ..... so you do need the 1000/1 ...... still dazzeled. thats a nutball sub,--i want it . now the problem is $$$

Any thoughts...
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Originally posted by AAAA
WOWOWOWO ok.... just checked specs and got the W7 with something else.....750watts RMS thats nuts ..... so you do need the 1000/1 ...... still dazzeled. thats a nutball sub,--i want it . now the problem is $$$

Any thoughts...
then go the cheaper route. get the w7 and the 1000/1. you really dont need anything running the rears and get the 300/2 to the run the front. get some lower sensitivity speakers and run the headunit that you get to them. i ran this setup temporarliy when i upgraded to two 300/2's. the shop didn't have one so i had them hook it up like that. sounded good and i mean really good but i had plans for a 5.1 setup so i needed the ability to wire up the back speakers to an amp so that's why i bought the other 300/2

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1 300/2
1 1000/1
1 12w7 (the farther back the better i know cause i use to own one)
jl audio XR's up front (either the two ways or 3 ways)
something cheap in the rear.

if you decide to go this route i have that 300/2 still (the one that's praticly new) and i will include two amp kits to go with it. although i dont have my old 1000/1 0guage kit.
Old 02-14-2003, 11:27 AM
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hmmmm, man you really got me thinking, thats a great set up, plus i can add another 300/2 amp to the rears later if i wanted to..... Excellent ... gotta do some adding and comparing... i think up a set up and post it....see what you think...

thanks again


oh hey, i was thinking, if i got just ...."just" the one W7, i was thinking to put it in the area behind the rear speakers and the strut....but you say farther back (and seeing the power and the basics of sound systems,) , i agree... but putting it under the strut, like i originall wanted to do with the 3 W6s, might looked wierd with just that 1 sub .... or would it ( would it fit)??? i reallllllly wanna avoid a big box in tha back, or using the tirewell, just cause it looks like wasted space ..... wadayathink??

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it's either a big box in the back or a big box in the front. if you want better SQ it will sound better farther away. you probably wouldn't notice it much with it being under the strut bar. a 12w7 should fit. i took some measurements before for it and i believe it should be made pretty easily. just allow it to have some room to breathe and they sound better in a slot ported box.
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Three more Questions.....

What if i just put in 1 10W7 and hooked it up to the 500/1, (would it bump more than 2 10W6v2's??) ??? im thinking of alternitives to the 12W7[beast!!] and a 1000/1 amp.....

What if i invert the sub, is there less sound quality, loudness ..... is it a good idea????

What about other products other then JL that would save me $$$$ but not rob me of power/quality......
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i wouldn't advise inverting the w7 because of the heavy magnetic structure. most installers will tell you the same thing also. it will sound much better with the cone up instead of down.

the 500/1 was made for the 10w7 with the 1000/1 for the 12 and 13w7. the 250/1 is made for the soon to be released 8w7. keep in mind you are better to over power than to under power.
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Originally posted by 2k3silver350z
i wouldn't advise inverting the w7 because of the heavy magnetic structure. most installers will tell you the same thing also. it will sound much better with the cone up instead of down.

the 500/1 was made for the 10w7 with the 1000/1 for the 12 and 13w7. the 250/1 is made for the soon to be released 8w7. keep in mind you are better to over power than to under power.
cool, what would you choose (Y?) between a 10W7 W/ a 500/1, or 2 10W6v2 out of a 500/1???

Arent they making the same power in that application???
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i'd do the w7 10 with a 500/1. i'm more of an SQ person and it would suit my needs perfectly and still get annoyingly loud if you wanted it too.

the excursion capabilities of the w7 will move more air causing more spl than the w6's would.

personaly i'm going to do 2 8w7's with a 500/1 later on this year. i need to quit wasting money on my project car though.
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I went with the 10w7, and 500/1. Custom enclosure thanks to Nazar. I decided the 12 was too much for my tastes.

-Jeremy
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Originally posted by Monkey Man
I went with the 10w7, and 500/1. Custom enclosure thanks to Nazar. I decided the 12 was too much for my tastes.

-Jeremy
exactly, as i said i had a 12w7 with a 1000/1 and it was way too much. i ended up selling the 1000/1 and buying a 500/1. the sub itself was still too much though even with only 500 rms running into it. if i had to do it all over again i would go smaller which is why i'm suggesting you the 10w7 with the 500/1.
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Speaking of JL audio, one of our customers wants us to install (4) 12w7's and (4) 1000.1 amps in his Mustang. Can you imagine how loud that would be??

-Jeremy
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Originally posted by Monkey Man
Speaking of JL audio, one of our customers wants us to install (4) 12w7's and (4) 1000.1 amps in his Mustang. Can you imagine how loud that would be??

-Jeremy
that's stupid loud. i don't get why anyone would want it that loud in a vehicle.
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that is tooooooo loud, plus imagine the weight he put on that car .... so long performance; he shoulda gotten a Monte Carlo, at least he'd have trunk room.

But i like the idea of the 10W7, loud enuf is what you guys are saying (not too much weight added) I just dont know where im going to put just 1 sub... gotta find a place where it looks good........................................................ .......

thanks for the help, keep the advice comin'

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Originally posted by Monkey Man
I went with the 10w7, and 500/1. Custom enclosure thanks to Nazar. I decided the 12 was too much for my tastes.

-Jeremy
So where'd you put the 10w7, under the strut? (pic?) SQ im sure its gr8, are you completely satisfied with the set up?
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Default ... a lil more Q & A

are these able to fit in the Z w/o major mods?----- XR653-CS 6.5-inch (160mm) 3-Way Component System---------- or would i be better off with Focal 165K2 's ... as appose to my original idea of XR650Csi Components.........

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Originally posted by AAAA
are these able to fit in the Z w/o major mods?----- XR653-CS 6.5-inch (160mm) 3-Way Component System---------- or would i be better off with Focal 165K2 's ... as appose to my original idea of XR650Csi Components.........

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you would have to have them fiberglass an enclosure for the 4" driver. shoudn't be that big of a deal but yes they will fit and unless you go with the highest end focals (above the kevlar) you will be going with something that wont sound as good.
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Originally posted by AAAA
So where'd you put the 10w7, under the strut? (pic?) SQ im sure its gr8, are you completely satisfied with the set up?
It's not in my car yet, Nazar is in the process of making the enclosure right now. I will definitely post up pics and a full review when I get it all in the car.

-Jeremy
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Originally posted by Monkey Man
It's not in my car yet, Nazar is in the process of making the enclosure right now. I will definitely post up pics and a full review when I get it all in the car.

-Jeremy
well if he's basing it off the other enclosures that he has made then yes it would be under the strut bar. if not you will have to ditch your spare to be able to get it in there.
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so, no inverting the 10W7, hmmmmm, i might just put it under the strut too ....... sounds like the best place
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Originally posted by 2k3silver350z
you would have to have them fiberglass an enclosure for the 4" driver. shoudn't be that big of a deal but yes they will fit and unless you go with the highest end focals (above the kevlar) you will be going with something that wont sound as good.

yup, thats why i asked ...... too much trouble, forget a custom enclosure for the speakers at this point, im fine with the XR650 Csi components.............


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