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Old 07-12-2006, 01:25 PM
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Default New Dual 10'' Sub Enclosure

Guys, Check this Enclosure Out.

I think this is the one I will be ordering. I like the Z in the back.




ENCLOSURE SPECS

AIR SPACE = .38 PER SIDE "yes its divided"

WOOD USED = 5/8" MDF

TERMINALS = GOLD SPRING LOADED X 2

HOLE SIZE = 9.125 or 9 1/8" X 2

Here is the link to the Listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Old 07-12-2006, 02:27 PM
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This box will not yield the best sound quality for most subs out there.
Old 07-12-2006, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by THE TECH
This box will not yield the best sound quality for most subs out there.
+1. Air volume is too small as well as thickness.
Old 07-12-2006, 02:30 PM
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Wow thats a big Z
Old 07-12-2006, 02:39 PM
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Kinda 50/50 on the huge Z but maybe painted to match the color of my car would make it look better?!?!? I thought having the subs divided would produce better sound quality? I had a custom box for two 10" subs with similar dimensions made for my Nissan Titan, only difference was that it was not divided. I did not like the sound that it produced, when placed in a dual chamber box it sounded a lot better, maybe it was just the subs I had?
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Nothing a little polyfill can't fix as far as air space.
Old 07-12-2006, 02:58 PM
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Yes, the polyfill can help, but .38ft3 is just tiny!!!
Old 07-12-2006, 03:03 PM
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You could go with the shallow depth Pioneer subs:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...564759,00.html

They only need .35-.7 airspace each

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Old 07-12-2006, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by THE TECH
This box will not yield the best sound quality for most subs out there.
What do you guys think is a good volumen for the JL 10W6?

Will the Zenclosure be good?

.67 cu ft per sub/chamber?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/350z-...spagenameZWDVW
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Ignore my last comment I just looked up the specs on my sub and realized that I need twice that much airspace to make them sound right. Way to small.
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But blow a hole of 3-4" between the two sealed volumes and you'll gain the volume. Polyfill is good for a "bit" of volume but not a doubling!

The calculations for one driver are done different than two ... where's that darn java script calculator link (at work).
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Originally Posted by maturola
What do you guys think is a good volumen for the JL 10W6?

Will the Zenclosure be good?

.67 cu ft per sub/chamber?
I calculated out the 0.75 cu foot $99 Zenclosure while shopping my subwoofers. Looking at my figures a pair of 10W6V2 are a pretty good fit with a Qtc of .94 which is going to give you a very good and natural sounding response with just the slightest bump of a dB or less.

The 0.67 cu. ft. is going to be close to the 0.75 of my box.

(where's that darn java calculator link?)
Old 07-12-2006, 05:05 PM
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Default So...for the 2 x 10w6

Originally Posted by Paul350Z
I calculated out the 0.75 cu foot $99 Zenclosure while shopping my subwoofers. Looking at my figures a pair of 10W6V2 are a pretty good fit with a Qtc of .94 which is going to give you a very good and natural sounding response with just the slightest bump of a dB or less.

The 0.67 cu. ft. is going to be close to the 0.75 of my box.

(where's that darn java calculator link?)
ok so Knowing that the fox box is too small.

Between the Zenclosure with 0.67cu (trying to get closer to the 0.94 cu you calculated). and the tccustomsaudio one with 1.95f^3, mono chamber.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nissan-350z-Cust...QQcmdZViewItem
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Considering that the TCcustom is almost double the price...

what would you guys recommend??
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(trying to get closer to the 0.94 cu you calculated)

Actually I calculated Qtc "The system's Q at resonance (Fc), due to all losses; dimensionless" ... which is the result of running the pair of JL subwoofer's Thiel Small parameters though the size of 0.75 cu.ft.

An "ideal" Qtc is 0.707 - an excessive Qtc would normally be concidered 1.4 and above where you'll see +5 dB of box gain and a loss of bottom end.

I found the java calculator.

http://www.carstereo.com/help/Articles.cfm?id=30
This is for one speaker in a box.

http://www.carstereo.com/help/Articles.cfm?id=26
This one supports 1 or more speakers (drivers)

Isobaric refers to a pair of subwoofers mounted cone to cone - normally select "no" on this option.
Old 07-12-2006, 05:45 PM
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There a very few woofers out there that will correctly work in a box like this.

The TC box is much nicer as far as airspce is concerned.

Paul is referring to the box being overdamped. It will essentially have a really nice "hard" punch, but no thump/rumble .... not really a subwoofer as most are concerned.
Old 07-12-2006, 05:54 PM
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check out wickedcas.com. I just bought door pods from them.. nice fiberglass work and they make enclosures specifically for the Z.
I use a JL fiberglass stealthbox. Problem with that is with a fiberglass box like mine, you can only fit stamped metal basket subs.....(so sad as I have access to tons of great subs with cast baskets)

If your fiberglass box is provisioned with holes to bolt in the sub, the same holes you use for a stamped basket sub will not acomodate a cast basket sub.

I pulled out the 10W3 v2's for some memphis subs. The best ones I could get with a stamped metal basket. I think the JL subs are overpriced for what you get out of them.

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I had the Z-Enclosures box first then later switched to the TC Customs one. I listen to rap/r&b mainly, so the Z-Enclosures box would not produce the sound I wanted. If you want mostly hard, tight bass (like the bass produced from rock drums) then the Z-Enclosures will do fine. You also sacrifice decent space when you switch to the TC Customs box. Just something to keep in mind.
Old 07-13-2006, 06:29 AM
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I'd go with the TC Customs for looks alone, even if they performed identical. I just can't get past the huge Z
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What is the model Memphis sub that will fit the JL stealthbox? and do they really sound better than the JL w3's?
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The stealthbox is very very similar to the ZEnclosures box. If you are listening to anything other than rock n roll, this box is too small IMO.


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