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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Question Best 12" subwoofers you know of?

Hey guys,

Looking to get opinions/input here on what are some of the best 12" / 13" subwoofers out there.

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1) SQL oriented - oxymoronically speaking ... high-excursion while maintianing good sound quality
2) Price - $400 - $600 max pricing
3) High-power handling ... think ~1kW RMS


So far I have:

1) JL W7
2) Image Dynamics IDMAx
3) Adire Brahma
4) Ascendant Havoc
5) Alpine Type-X
6) JBL GTi

Feel free to add to the list.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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I'm torn between the W7 and the type-X myself. Everytime i think i know what i want, I read something that tells me different!!
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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SVS TV-12 "Ultra" - driven with +500 watts in a proper sized enclosure this thing has extension down below 12 Hz. There are certainly more expensive woofers but not many will reach this things level of quality.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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That's a TC Sounds woofer ... basically a 3HP

TC3000 - for sale at TC Sounds.com ... awesome woofer.

I actually got 5 of these from Tom V back in the day and made some sonotubes with them. Awesome subwoofers, no doubt
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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13W7 is the most impressive I've personally heard

But I would like to try mounting this-->

http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/products...jackHammer.cfm
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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12w7 blows them all away
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Boston Acoustics SPG555
1. Only needs 1 cubic foot box
2. Only 26lbs
3. 1000 watts RMS
4. 3 1/2" voice coil
5. 3 3/4" peak to peak excursion
6. more surface area than a regular 12" sub
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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RE Audio, Treo, Digital Designs,AA,TC sounds, FI just to name a few
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Fi aren't really out yet.

I'll wait to see what RE puts out after the change of ownership ... should be interesting. I'm excited about the new XXX (except for the price)

I've never heard a DD subwoofer ... anyone is S. CA wanna demo one for me ?

Also ... the W7 in no way blows any of these away .. hop off that wagon please
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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+1 to the JL W7. I currently have 2 FI sub 1 12" Q and 1 18" BTL. Amazing subs, great build quality. The SQ from the Q is stunning. BTL is just mean as can be wth 3k watts.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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I'd love to see some good pics of the 18" BTL if you have them to share. What specs did you get it made to (magnets, coil, etc)?
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im running a fully loaded BTL in a 7.5 CU ft box tuned to 34hz. I can get some pics for you when i take it back out friday.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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my choice out of thsoe would go to the idmax. to me, it sounds a little better, has almost hte same output, needs a smaller enclosure, is easier to mount, and is cheaper than the w7

havent heard the new brahma, but if its like the old ones then that would be up there for me as well

how about one that may not be quite as loud but sounds good and costs a bit less?

OZ audio Matrix Elite
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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didnt even think of OZ, crystal COMPX subs are Nice. Soundsplinter,Stereo Intergrity.
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Originally Posted by JimRHIT
Fi aren't really out yet.

I'll wait to see what RE puts out after the change of ownership ... should be interesting. I'm excited about the new XXX (except for the price)

I've never heard a DD subwoofer ... anyone is S. CA wanna demo one for me ?

Also ... the W7 in no way blows any of these away .. hop off that wagon please
Not to mention you need a coffin to mount the W7 in.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dannichols
13W7 is the most impressive I've personally heard

But I would like to try mounting this-->

http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/products...jackHammer.cfm
do you think youd be able to fit the driver and driver in the Z with that ?
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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http://www.sunfire.com/TrueSubwooferEQSigPR.htm
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Anyone heard a Dynaudio Sub? I myself haven't heard one, but their other speakers aer high quality. I think the RMS is below what you listed, but I wanted to know?

I'm running PPI Pro 12's (Pre-DEI) flat piston series (I think from their 1998 line), which I really like for SQL.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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the dyn membrane sound pretty good, but honesly not a huge amount of output...

the pro 12 are great sq subs, but limited by their low xmax...

to me, the protypical low cost, moderate powerhandling, great sq sub is the image dynamics IDQ

but thena gain, we arent talking about these kinds of subs

but...when the next version of IDQs come out, you will be seeing it a lot in my installs gurnateed...if the rumors are true, meaning, xmax around 20mm, EVEN SMALLER box requirements, and the same great sq at a moderate price...drool

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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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Anybody tried DLS subwoofers? I have a few friends in Hong Kong who have these and they rave about them.

http://www.dls.se/english/
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