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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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So recently I've been hearing a lot of rubbing/nasty sounds with certain pitched sounds, it gets really annoying. After some searching, I found out that it was coming from the rear speakers and decided to take a look. I opened it and found out that it was rubbing. I had a friend do it who owns a ghetto shop in the 'hood', which had me thinking next time I'm going to get things done right and don't care how much it's going to cost me. Anywho, my friend and I aren't on talking terms because of some sh*t that he's done. So what should I do to fix this problem?

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Infinity Reference 6010cs 6-1/2"/6-3/4" 2-way Component System



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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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So what should I do to fix this problem?
Don't run rear speakers at all.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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Don't run rear speakers at all.
Why not? I want to be able to use my front and rear speakers.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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how did you manage to simply pop that section open to see rear speaker?
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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Most people here say not to run rear speakers. Front stage...

I have not, but would like to, sit in a car with a decent sound system where the rear speakers are being used and set up correctly to compare it to one without rear speakers.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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how did you manage to simply pop that section open to see rear speaker?
I just popped out the grill covering the rear speakers.
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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I just popped out the grill covering the rear speakers.
hmm last time I read up on it, the whole plastic covering had to be removed to get to the speaker. That's why I sold the boston acoustics I bought . Would you mind pm'ing me little more detail on how you did it? When I looked at it I saw no visible way to just "pop" off the cover. Thanks
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pun1sh3RZ
hmm last time I read up on it, the whole plastic covering had to be removed to get to the speaker. That's why I sold the boston acoustics I bought . Would you mind pm'ing me little more detail on how you did it? When I looked at it I saw no visible way to just "pop" off the cover. Thanks

I have always thought this to be the case also.
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Just got pm from OP, the entire plastic does need to be removed in order to install the speaker.

Don't feel as pissed now
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Okay…

Someone replaced your rear OEM speakers with 2 way components. But, something went bad (looks as though the replacement speakers are not correctly placed in the OEM “slots”).

For sure whoever mounted your 2 way components did in fact remove all of the rear plastic shielding. They had to do this to gain access to the metal mounting framework to mount the midrange components, and to drill the tweeter holes. But, then the installer broke off the retaining-clips for the rear grilles, and reattached the grilles by drilling new holes through the pseudo-attachment holes in the rear grilles. You see the new screw holes in your pictures. That is not a mortal sin since it’s the way many installers do this (to reattach the rear grilles).

The big problem is how the installer decided to mount the midrange component. It appears as though he used a rubber ring (WTF?... Who would do that?), and didn’t even bother centering the speaker. I am going to say that is the worst speaker mount I’ve ever seen.

Well crap… first of all, the rears should not have directional high-frequency speakers since there is no way to stage tweeters in this position in your Z’s interior. He should have installed coaxials if you even wanted rear speakers.

Since you are experiencing bad sound from your poorly mounted rears, and it’s debatable whether rears are useful at all; I would simply disconnect these problematic rear speakers.

If you want rear speakers, and want to save this miserable installation, you must do a custom fabrication to provide a decent mount. And once this is done, you are still stuck with the dilemma of how to direct the tweeters.

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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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Okay…

Someone replaced your rear OEM speakers with 2 way components. But, something went bad (looks as though the replacement speakers are not correctly placed in the OEM “slots”).

For sure whoever mounted your 2 way components did in fact remove all of the rear plastic shielding. They had to do this to gain access to the metal mounting framework to mount the midrange components, and to drill the tweeter holes. But, then the installer broke off the retaining-clips for the rear grilles, and reattached the grilles by drilling new holes through the pseudo-attachment holes in the rear grilles. You see the new screw holes in your pictures. That is not a mortal sin since it’s the way many installers do this (to reattach the rear grilles).

The big problem is how the installer decided to mount the midrange component. It appears as though he used a rubber ring (WTF?... Who would do that?), and didn’t even bother centering the speaker. I am going to say that is the worst speaker mount I’ve ever seen.

Well crap… first of all, the rears should not have directional high-frequency speakers since there is no way to stage tweeters in this position in your Z’s interior. He should have installed coaxials if you even wanted rear speakers.

Since you are experiencing bad sound from your poorly mounted rears, and it’s debatable whether rears are useful at all; I would simply disconnect these problematic rear speakers.

If you want rear speakers, and want to save this miserable installation, you must do a custom fabrication to provide a decent mount. And once this is done, you are still stuck with the dilemma of how to direct the tweeters.

--Spike

That sounds horrendous. I wouldn't mind disconnecting the rear speakers, if I knew they weren't messed up. I didn't even want tweeters in the rear speakers to begin with. I have NO FREAKING CLUE as to why he did that. Custom fabrication, can I take it to any shop and they'd know what to do? I'm really not that 'fancy' when it comes to anything car related, really. I rely on the work of others too much, and I don't like it. I wish I knew how to do it myself, I really want to learn but I have no freaking clue. What do you advise? I want to disconnect the rear speakers, and get rid of the horrendous holes. Would that mean buying a whole new 'rear dash'? Please help me.

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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by vnarang
That sounds horrendous. I wouldn't mind disconnecting the rear speakers, if I knew they weren't messed up. I didn't even want tweeters in the rear speakers to begin with. I have NO FREAKING CLUE as to why he did that. Custom fabrication, can I take it to any shop and they'd know what to do? I'm really not that 'fancy' when it comes to anything car related, really. I rely on the work of others too much, and I don't like it. I wish I knew how to do it myself, I really want to learn but I have no freaking clue. What do you advise? I want to disconnect the rear speakers, and get rid of the horrendous holes. Would that mean buying a whole new 'rear dash'? Please help me.

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Don't "throw out the baby with the bath water."

Since you already have these speakers and the tweeter holes are drilled, your best fix is to get the midrange mounted correctly. Any high-end installer can fabricate a mounting-ring for the midrange.

Once the mounting is corrected, use the speaker's cross-over (if it has this) and your fader to control any harsh tweeter sounds, and the rear speaker sound in general. You will probably want to turn this speaker down fairly low.

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Originally Posted by DVFlyer
Most people here say not to run rear speakers. Front stage...

I have not, but would like to, sit in a car with a decent sound system where the rear speakers are being used and set up correctly to compare it to one without rear speakers.
You rang?

Finally getting into the house this week, sorry I wasn't able to keep up with the A3 sale. I should be up in SD off and on to pick up some house stuff and the new puppy.
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You rang?

Finally getting into the house this week, sorry I wasn't able to keep up with the A3 sale. I should be up in SD off and on to pick up some house stuff and the new puppy.
New puppy? Do tell......

If you're in my area, I'd love to hear your system.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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looks like he tried to just redrill holes in the car to make them fit. They should have slid back into the stock brackets the old speakers were in and mounted properly in the hole. I have 3 ways and they fit in there just fine.


-I also did not know you could remove the grill, i busted my *** for a few hours removing everything and putting it back on i dont think you could replace them without it, not enough room to finagle things around.
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Originally Posted by DVFlyer
New puppy? Do tell......

If you're in my area, I'd love to hear your system.
She is a 9 week old American Staffordshire Terrier. Excellent breeder and the mother and father were both great natured and gorgeous. She was adament about selling her to a show home, but I told her how pampered and trained she would be with me.

I will post pics by Friday and should be up there at least once or twice in the next three weeks and will hit you up with a PM. The Polks seem to sound better and better over time, I guess that break-in period was longer than I thought. lol
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Originally Posted by BlueBoxer
She is a 9 week old American Staffordshire Terrier. Excellent breeder and the mother and father were both great natured and gorgeous. She was adament about selling her to a show home, but I told her how pampered and trained she would be with me.

I will post pics by Friday and should be up there at least once or twice in the next three weeks and will hit you up with a PM. The Polks seem to sound better and better over time, I guess that break-in period was longer than I thought. lol
Yes, thank you for telling everyone about your puppy on my thread.



Everyone else: thanks for your help, hopefully I can get it fixed sometime soon. So what exactly should I tell the people when I take it into an audio shop?
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