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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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I went over to my Nissan dealer to see if they could fic the face plate on the drivers side speaker ( it was loose). They said they could check it out but it wasn't under warranty ( it would cost 125 just to look at it). I said screw that and asked the manager if there was anyone he would refer me to for a good system ( they would have to take off the face plate anyways and put it back together ). So i walk 3 stores down and i enter SOUND UNLIMITED. I told the guy what i was looking for : "i don't want anything to extravagant...i mostly like to listen to the car, but if i want to turn up the music once in a while i would like to be able to without busting my speakers."..."i want it to look completely stock..no one will be able to tell i have aftermarket."

He began listing off what he thought would be good:

1. Focal amp solid - $335
2. Focal amp solid - $335
3. Focal speakers rear - $150
3. AVI Kevlar fronts - $300
4. Sub-woofer "Image Dynamics" ( custom face plate also made for it ) - $225
5. Audio cable LC6i ( to be compatible with stock radio ) - $200
6. Pioneer Navi screen, i pod/blue-tooth (custom fitted into cubby ) - $400

TOTAL (with parts/labor) : $2,635

Is what he even listed good? Is the price reasonable? ( if u have any suggestions on what would be better i would appreciate it )
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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$200 for audio cable WTF!
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Sounds like he is putting everything in factory locations. He appears to be using some great stuff!! Who knows how it will all sound together.

Audio cable LC6i is some sort of adapter to the factory head unit lets one hook up after market amps to the factory head unit.

Sounds like a fair price...
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Sounds like he is putting everything in factory locations. He appears to be using some great stuff!! Who knows how it will all sound together.

Audio cable LC6i is some sort of adapter to the factory head unit lets one hook up after market amps to the factory head unit.

Sounds like a fair price...
So would you say go for it? I'm not much of an audio buff so i wouldn't know.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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That adds up to like $1000 dollars in labor.

If you can do it yourself and are a semi-handyman i think you could do it yourself if you wanted to and had the time (by time i mean about 5 hours)
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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I was thinking it was $700 in labor install looks like it will take awhile. So depending on what the OP really wants and the installers skill it may be a good deal.

I probably would go for this set up I might want to do just a 5 channel amp though instead of two. Mostly because I have one sitting around. Most here do not bother with the rear speakers when you have a sub. I like the bluetooth idea. Yeah would probably go for it with what I mentioned being different. Taking out the rear speakers would not save you much so I would go with them in your case..
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by striker27
I was thinking it was $700 in labor install looks like it will take awhile. So depending on what the OP really wants and the installers skill it may be a good deal.

I probably would go for this set up I might want to do just a 5 channel amp though instead of two. Mostly because I have one sitting around. Most here do not bother with the rear speakers when you have a sub. I like the bluetooth idea. Yeah would probably go for it with what I mentioned being different. Taking out the rear speakers would not save you much so I would go with them in your case..
My bad, addition seems to be hard for me today
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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haha, yah i think ill let them handle it. I am by no means a handy man. They showed me a system they did for another z (which the owner of the nissan dealership brought them). Looked very well put together from the photos. So the price and quality of the speakers is in order?
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Focal makes good stuff, so those are definately worth it. Never heard of Image Dynamics, might want to read up on them. Pioneer is always a good choice for me, and thats a pretty decent price. Is that taxes in, price after everything?
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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where in socal are you? hell I will install a nice system for half that price. labor included. lol
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DB350
Focal makes good stuff, so those are definately worth it. Never heard of Image Dynamics, might want to read up on them. Pioneer is always a good choice for me, and thats a pretty decent price. Is that taxes in, price after everything?
There are many on here that praise ID, so I would not worry about that. Seems like alot of money for what seems like not too much work.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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where in socal are you? hell I will install a nice system for half that price. labor included. lol
Really? That would be great! I'm in glendale. I'm sure you can do custom quality fits (like what is listed above)
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Originally Posted by DB350
Focal makes good stuff, so those are definately worth it. Never heard of Image Dynamics, might want to read up on them. Pioneer is always a good choice for me, and thats a pretty decent price. Is that taxes in, price after everything?
yah thats parts, labor, and taxes
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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Lose the Focal rears, try the install without rears, you can add them later if you feel you are missing something.

For telling the installer "I don't want anything too extravagant", he sure put together a high end system there. Those AVI's are absolutely beautiful speakers. I've always had a soft spot for AVI, but they are hard to come by in NJ (no dealers), and nobody reputable sells them online.

You can put together a very respectable system for around $1500, if you are willing to do the install yourself and shop around online for some good prices. I mean, he's got you buying $700 in amps......it's overkill for a modest system.

I know Bing is in CA, but not sure if he is in "southern" CA. Look up Simplicity in Sound and see if he's close enough to you. I hear and see from posts that his work is worth a bit of a drive and his prices are fair.
http://simplicity.elitecaraudio.org/

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That will be a great CES that provides exceptional sound . Your installer suggests really good components, and I think his labor fee is very reasonable. He is not over-charging at all for the hardware.

The installation process requires a lot of work when fitting this number of components and making them all work together properly. Your installer faces a big task just fitting the stuff (e.g., mounting the amps, fitting the speakers, doing a lot of wiring, etc.). His labor cost is reasonable.

As Street mentions, you can reduce the cost significantly by eliminating the rear speakers and going with a less costly amp setup. But, I’ll bet your installer guy will argue with this (he obviously likes rear speakers… nothing wrong with that preference… and he likes good amps with lots of power… again, I won’t argue that point).

If you have the ca$h, I say go with it.

You could cut it by at least $1K, but that means eliminating the rear speakers, downgrading the amps, and doing the installation yourself. And, if something goes wrong, you’re back to begging the installer for help (and he won’t be inclined to providing a good labor rate at that point).

I really think a good installer is worth paying a fair fee for his service.

Question: Is your installer using any sound deadening with this installation?

Please let us know what you decide upon.

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Originally Posted by SharX59
I went over to my Nissan dealer to see if they could fic the face plate on the drivers side speaker ( it was loose). They said they could check it out but it wasn't under warranty ( it would cost 125 just to look at it). I said screw that and asked the manager if there was anyone he would refer me to for a good system ( they would have to take off the face plate anyways and put it back together ). So i walk 3 stores down and i enter SOUND UNLIMITED. I told the guy what i was looking for : "i don't want anything to extravagant...i mostly like to listen to the car, but if i want to turn up the music once in a while i would like to be able to without busting my speakers."..."i want it to look completely stock..no one will be able to tell i have aftermarket."

He began listing off what he thought would be good:

1. Focal amp solid - $335
2. Focal amp solid - $335
3. Focal speakers rear - $150
3. AVI Kevlar fronts - $300
4. Sub-woofer "Image Dynamics" ( custom face plate also made for it ) - $225
5. Audio cable LC6i ( to be compatible with stock radio ) - $200
6. Pioneer Navi screen, i pod/blue-tooth (custom fitted into cubby ) - $400

TOTAL (with parts/labor) : $2,635

Is what he even listed good? Is the price reasonable? ( if u have any suggestions on what would be better i would appreciate it )
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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1. get done get done right the first time 2. i wish when i did my install that i payed the extra amount of money because now i wish that i had done the back speakers. 3. put the sub in the strut space 1. 10"jl w6v or 3 (sorry for miss spelling on the info on subs). reason why i say that i was told that if you put it behind the front seat that the sub low end waves dont have enough time to i guess mature to good clean sound, correct me if im wrong.

O, by the way i can help you out major. I got a box were you cant even tell you have subs with 2 jl 8" subs. plus which dont need a big amp to power them but still rattle the car well all for $300 and this is a costume box for the Z. Pm me if your interested! The box was made at Custom Sounds in San Antonio Texas On San Pedro (road name) call them if you want to get more info on how the box was made and stuff. If you want all that in def. detail. Well anyways pm if you interested.
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Originally Posted by Spike100
That will be a great CES that provides exceptional sound . Your installer suggests really good components, and I think his labor fee is very reasonable. He is not over-charging at all for the hardware.

The installation process requires a lot of work when fitting this number of components and making them all work together properly. Your installer faces a big task just fitting the stuff (e.g., mounting the amps, fitting the speakers, doing a lot of wiring, etc.). His labor cost is reasonable.

As Street mentions, you can reduce the cost significantly by eliminating the rear speakers and going with a less costly amp setup. But, I’ll bet your installer guy will argue with this (he obviously likes rear speakers… nothing wrong with that preference… and he likes good amps with lots of power… again, I won’t argue that point).

If you have the ca$h, I say go with it.

You could cut it by at least $1K, but that means eliminating the rear speakers, downgrading the amps, and doing the installation yourself. And, if something goes wrong, you’re back to begging the installer for help (and he won’t be inclined to providing a good labor rate at that point).

I really think a good installer is worth paying a fair fee for his service.

Question: Is your installer using any sound deadening with this installation?

Please let us know what you decide upon.

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My installer will be using sound deadening for the sub-woofer
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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For casual listening as you stated, this system is way overkill. He suggests excellent components as everyone else has said, but again probably much more than what you are looking for. As with any local car audio shop, the prices are high and the labor is even higher. You could probably knock that price in half if you buy the stuff online and find a friend that knows what he is doing...

Just my $.02
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For casual listening as you stated, this system is way overkill. He suggests excellent components as everyone else has said, but again probably much more than what you are looking for. As with any local car audio shop, the prices are high and the labor is even higher. You could probably knock that price in half if you buy the stuff online and find a friend that knows what he is doing...

Just my $.02
I keep tellin u guys neither i, nor anyone i know can do this =(. I WISH!!! save some money for college =(
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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I keep tellin u guys neither i, nor anyone i know can do this =(. I WISH!!! save some money for college =(
That sucks...I guess go with the pros then! I would say, like most everyone else, that with a sub you don't need the rear speakers...IMO, it ruins the soundstage.

Also, those amps are overkill. You could have $2-300 going with less powerful models, or like someone else said, just get a 5 channel and call it a day. You should go to at least two more shops for quotes before you decide.
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